Is Covid over?

Quote: kenarman

Maybe a class action suit to recover what it cost each of us would be a better way to expose things.

What did it cost you? You’re Canadian. lol

Quote: kenarman

He probably didn't do anything illegal, but he certainly lied about funding very dangerous and immoral research.

Dangerous and immoral research??????????
Do you think Dr Fauci is Dr Evil
Do you believe one singular man in the USA singlehandedly worked with China to create Covid.
Not another single US citizen is involved??????
Nobody in the US is involved except Fauci?????
It seems incredible that this single person had so much power to conspire with China while Trump was President
If this is true, why was Fauci given unlimited singular power to conspire with China under Trump
Did Trump totally drop the ball???????
Why didn't Trump admit his administration created the Virus. He saw Fauci just about everyday when he was doing his daily virus conferences. Why did the Trump administration give Fauci singular power to conspire with China.

The world is shades of Grey. I simply don't believe in the Dr Evil theory. Do you believe Dr Fauci is Dr Evil and singularly conspired with China with not a single other US citizen involved.
Is this how the govt works. One man under Trump has total power in the singular to conspire with China to create covid.

I'll go with Wikipedia experts :-)

Publishing a book is meaningless
Anybody ready to go all in on Ivermectin???????
Virus infections are up.
Despite the below book, I doubt Dr Soopoo would approve consumption of horse paste

https://www.amazon.com/War-Ivermectin-Medicine-Millions-Pandemic/dp/151077386X?ref=d6k_applink_bb_dls&dplnkId=83e9ea5e-e1cd-4833-a9d8-e603b0fe33dc
"War on Ivermectin: The Medicine that Saved Millions and Could Have Ended the COVID Pandemic"

Again, I'm going to Wikipedia for an opinion on Ivermectin. No interest in the book :-)

Here is my source for proof regarding Ivermection
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic

Quote: terapined

Dangerous and immoral research??????????
Do you think Dr Fauci is Dr Evil
Do you believe one singular man in the USA singlehandedly worked with China to create Covid.
Not another single US citizen is involved??????
Nobody in the US is involved except Fauci?????
It seems incredible that this single person had so much power to conspire with China while Trump was President
If this is true, why was Fauci given unlimited singular power to conspire with China under Trump
Did Trump totally drop the ball???????
Why didn't Trump admit his administration created the Virus. He saw Fauci just about everyday when he was doing his daily virus conferences. Why did the Trump administration give Fauci singular power to conspire with China.

The world is shades of Grey. I simply don't believe in the Dr Evil theory. Do you believe Dr Fauci is Dr Evil and singularly conspired with China with not a single other US citizen involved.
Is this how the govt works. One man under Trump has total power in the singular to conspire with China to create covid.

I'll go with Wikipedia experts :-)

He headed the US agency that funded the development of the vaccine he needs to take responsibility.

Quote: kenarman

He headed the US agency that funded the development of the vaccine he needs to take responsibility.

How many people are involved in funding decisions?
Responsibility for what?????????
Your proof is a book that is releasing tomorrow
Obviously you haven't read your proof
I actually read the Wikipedia articles
They are free to read
You forking over your cash to Andrew Huff :-)

Quote: terapined

How many people are involved in funding decisions?
Responsibility for what?????????
Your proof is a book that is releasing tomorrow
Obviously you haven't read your proof
I actually read the Wikipedia articles
They are free to read
You forking over your cash to Andrew Huff :-)

I don't expect anything in the book that hasn't been public knowledge for anyone that doesn't treat Wiki as gospel.

All the dealers on the Evolution gaming platform in my Michigan online casinos are wearing masks again. I can't say all of them are but most of them are and just a short time ago none of them were.

Quote: kenarman

I don't expect anything in the book that hasn't been public knowledge for anyone that doesn't treat Wiki as gospel.

Apparently your proof is very very weak.
If you can't convince our resident Dr Soopoo, a real Dr, how can you expect to convince me?????????
Wikipedia is not gospel, it simply reflects facts in the public domain and of course dismisses right wing fake alternate facts :-)
I'll go with facts
You going with fake alternate facts :-)

When did you move your goalposts from evidence to proof?

I’ll assume it’s when you were provided with evidence.

Kenerman if you think this guy is a credible insider how come you paid so little attention to the insiders who turned on Trump? And these were just the people he appointed or hired.


People Trump himself appointed or hired.

Former Trump Attorney General William Barr, his former boss had "become detached from reality" on the subject of his election loss, adding that Trump had no "interest in what the actual facts were.” Barr described as "bulls***" and "complete nonsense" what he called Trump's "crazy" assertions that fraud had cost him the election, and said he had let the president know it.

Mike Pence
In a speech to the Federalist Society in February, Pence publicly disclosed his thinking about Trump's request.

“President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election,” Pence said, adding, “The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone. And frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president.”

Bill Stepien, former campaign manager for Donald Trump's 2020 presidential campaign.
In his testimony to the Jan. 6 committee, Bill Stepien, Trump's 2020 campaign manager, said that the dishonest campaign by Trump and his underlings to convince the American people that the election had been "stolen" inspired him to resign.

“I didn’t think what was happening was necessarily honest or professional at that point in time, so that led to me stepping away,” Stepien told lawmakers.

B.J. Pak
Former U.S. attorney for Georgia B.J. Pak
Trump's former U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Georgia, B.J. Pak, told the Jan. 6 committee that he had investigated claims of voter fraud in Georgia, including ones made by Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani about voting improprieties in Fulton County, and found them all to be "false." After learning that Trump planned to fire him over that finding, Pak resigned as U.S. attorney.


Eric Herschmann, former White House attorney,
In his testimony to the committee, former White House lawyer Eric Herschmann described conversations he had with right-wing attorney John Eastman, the author of an infamous memo imploring Pence to try to reverse the 2020 election results. Wyoming Republican Rep. Liz Cheney, the vice chair of the Jan. 6 committee, has said Eastman plotted with Trump to try to overturn the election results.

When Eastman pressed Herschmann to pursue a challenge to the results in Georgia, the White House lawyer said he replied, "Are you out of your f***ing mind?" Herschmann, who had no patience with Trump's claims that the election had been rigged against him, said he then offered Eastman some free legal advice: "Get a great f***ing criminal defense lawyer. You're going to need it."

Betsy DeVos
Education Secretary Betsy Devos,
One of Trump's most loyal Cabinet members, former Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos, said she lost faith in her former boss the day his supporters stormed the Capitol to try to block the certification of Joe Biden's victory.

"When I saw what was happening on Jan. 6 and didn't see the president step in and do what he could have done to turn it back or slow it down or really address the situation, it was just obvious to me that I couldn't continue," DeVos said in an interview published June 9 in USA Today.

DeVos said she also spoke to other Cabinet members and Pence about invoking the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office.

John Bolton
Former national security adviser John Bolton speaking at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington on Sept. 30, 2019.
. A year after Trump fired him, Bolton made clear that he would not be casting a vote for Trump in the 2020 election.

“I hope [history] will remember him as a one-term president who didn’t plunge the country irretrievably into a downward spiral,” Bolton said in an interview with ABC News.“We can get over one term. I have absolute confidence. … Two terms, I’m more troubled about.”

James Mattis
In his 2018 resignation letter to Trump, former Defense Secretary James Mattis made clear that he strongly opposed the foreign policy decisions of his boss. "Our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to the strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships," Mattis wrote.

While remaining mostly silent about his issues with Trump, Mattis issued a stinging rebuke in 2020 of the president's approach to handling civil unrest stemming from police misconduct against African Americans.

"Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try," Mattis wrote in the Atlantic. "Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership."

John Kelly
Former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, who left the White House in 2019 after repeated clashes with Trump, reportedly called him "the most flawed person" he had ever met.

Kelly shared Mattis's assessment of Trump published in the Atlantic, and essentially told his interviewer, Trump's short-lived communications director Anthony Scaramucci, that the country had made a mistake in electing him.

“I think we really need to step back," Kelly said. I think we need to look harder at who we elect.”

Richard V. Spencer
Trump fired Secretary of the Navy Richard V. Spencer in 2019 over his objections to Trump's insistence that a member of the Navy SEALs charged with war crimes and murder be allowed to retire with full benefits and with his military rank restored. In an op-ed in the Washington Post, Spencer said Trump's intervention was "a reminder that the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices."

Gary Cohn senior adviser and director of the National Economics Council, Gary Cohn left after little more than a year in those roles . Months after leaving his job, Cohn was quoted in Bob Woodward's book "Fear: Trump in the White House," calling Trump "a professional liar."

Tom Bossert

Trump's homeland security adviser Tom Bossert said that in early 2018 he informed the president that the conspiracy theory that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered with the 2016 presidential election had been "completely debunked." That didn't stop Trump from embarking on a pressure campaign to convince the government in Kyiv to come up with damaging information on his political rival, Joe Biden. Bossert resigned in April of 2018 and vented months later in an interview with ABC News.

“I am deeply frustrated with what he and the legal team is doing and repeating that debunked theory to the president. It sticks in his mind when he hears it over and over again, and for clarity here. ... Let me just again repeat that it has no validity.”

Stephanie Grisham
Stephanie Grisham, former White House press secretary and communications director, says she began to sour on Trump before she resigned on Jan. 6, 2021.

In her tell-all book "I'll Take Your Questions Now," she detailed Trump's regular verbal abuse and compromising requests.

“I knew that sooner or later, the president would want me to tell the public something that was not true or that would make me sound like a lunatic,” Grisham wrote.

Grisham has predicted that if Trump were to win a second term, "He will be about revenge."

Alyssa Farrah Griffin
Alyssa Farah, at the microphone outside the White House.

Former White House Communications Director Alyssa Farrah Griffin left her post in the Trump administration shortly before the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol, because she said the president knew full well that he had lost the election but continued to peddle false claims about voter fraud.

“He knew,” Farrah said in an interview with CNN's Pamela Brown. “He told me shortly after that he knew he lost, but then folks got around him. They got information in front of him, and I think his mind genuinely might have been changed about that, and that’s scary, because he did lose, and the facts are out there.”

Griffin has emerged as a persistent critic of the former president, telling Vanity Fair in May that she is trying to reach those who, like her, "drank the Kool-Aid" and once supported him.

“The people I’m most hoping to reach and convince that Trump is terrible for our country, are people who, like I once did, support him," she said.

H.R. McMaster
Reported to have mocked Trump at a private dinner party as having the intelligence of a "kindergartener," former national security adviser H.R. McMaster left his White House post in 2018, little more than a year after he accepted the post. Asked if Trump was as big a threat to election integrity in the U.S. as Russia, McMaster was unequivocal. “He is aiding and abetting Putin’s efforts by not being direct about this,” McMaster said of Trump in an interview on MSNBC.
McMaster theorized that if Trump did not confront Russian President Vladimir Putin over his 2016 election meddling directly, "he'll inadvertently draw his own election into question."

Anthony Scaramucci served in the Trump administration as White House communications director for all of 11 days, but that apparently was enough to dramatically change his view of Donald Trump. Amid criticism of Trump's response to mass shootings in El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio, and Trump's responses to it, Scaramucci diagnosed the fate of all Trump critics.
“For the last 3 years I have fully supported this President,” Scaramucci tweeted in 2019. “Recently he has said things that divide the country in a way that is unacceptable. So I didn’t pass the 100% litmus test. Eventually he turns on everyone, and soon it will be you and then the entire country.”

Trump's former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, took aim at the former president a week after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.
"We need to acknowledge he let us down," Haley, once a steadfast Trump loyalist, told Politico. "He went down a path he shouldn't have, and we shouldn't have followed him, and we shouldn't have listened to him. And we can't let that ever happen again." Especially galling to Haley was Trump's tweet attacking Pence, as a mob of his supporters roamed the Capitol chanting that he should be hanged "When I tell you I'm angry, it's an understatement," Haley said. "Mike has been nothing but loyal to that man. He's been nothing but a good friend of that man. ... I am so disappointed in the fact that [despite] the loyalty and friendship he had with Mike Pence, that he would do that to him. Like, I'm disgusted by it."

The longtime Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, who also served as the vice president of the Trump Organization, pleaded guilty in 2018 to criminal counts that included campaign finance violations, tax fraud and bank fraud. Known as Trump's "fixer," Cohen quickly turned on his former boss, arguing in court that he had broken laws at Trump's direction. Since his conviction, Cohen has spoken out regularly about his relationship with Trump, and has helped federal and state investigators in their probes of the former president. In a YouTube series posted following the second public hearing of the Jan. 6 select committee, Cohen summarized his attitude toward Trump. "You may all remember when I testified before the House Oversight Committee and I stated emphatically that Donald Trump is a racist, he's a liar, he's a con man, he's a cheat," Cohen said. "And over the course of the years, I've called Donald Trump what? The grifter-in-chief. And today what did we learn? That right after they lost the election, the campaign — with, of course, Donald's approval — puts out this massive request for people to donate to the legal fund to challenge the big lie, to challenge the electoral vote and the theft that he keeps claiming took place. Well, they raised a ton of money. None of that money ended up getting spent, so where did that money go?"

Rex Tillerson
Rex Tillerson, the outgoing U.S. secretary of state
Tillerson said he found it challenging "to go to work for a man who is pretty undisciplined, doesn’t like to read, doesn’t read briefing reports, doesn’t like to get into the details of a lot of things, but rather just kind of says, ‘This is what I believe,’” he told CBS News in December 2018.
"His understanding of global events, his understanding of global history, his understanding of U.S. history was really limited. It's really hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn't even understand the concept for why we're talking about this," Tillerson told Foreign Policy.

Deborah Birx
in her memoir, “Silent Invasion: The Untold Story of the Trump Administration, Covid-19, and Preventing the Next Pandemic Before It’s Too Late,” former Trump White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx describes the former president's efforts on COVID-19 a "tragedy, on many levels."
Recounting the famous April 2020 briefing during which Trump suggested treating COVID-19 by injecting disinfectant, Birx wrote, “I looked down at my feet and wished for two things: something to kick and for the floor to open up and swallow me whole.”
Birx said she demanded that guidance be immediately reversed, and Trump quickly pivoted to saying he had only been joking.