Should Trans People be allowed to use opposite sex bathrooms?

Quote: kenarman

I would disagree with caricaturizing your solution as Occam's Razor is correct. Much simpler than rebuilding all the dressing rooms in the country is that if you have a dink don't go in that room.

Agree, but i also don't believe in the value of rooms over people.

Quote: kenarman

I would disagree with caricaturizing your solution as Occam's Razor is correct. Much simpler than rebuilding all the dressing rooms in the country is that if you have a dink don't go in that room.

on top of that, my understanding is that privacy is pretty well maintained in female locker rooms, they have some modesty, don't undress in front of each other to the point of near or complete nudity, and that there is accommodation to this practice in the design. Such modesty is absent mostly in a men's locker room.

I can confirm the latter but not the former ... attempts to drill holes from one to the other always got foiled!

my point being that such behavior, not just such gender, is quite the invasion

When I played ball, women reporters would enter after the games.

We got used to it.

I thought it was odd though.


Now that I look back, I wonder how many gay players were checking me out.

They got caught in the middle for trying to mix business and culture (capitalism and socialism).

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Nation’s Largest LGBTQ Org Suspends Anheuser-Busch’s Perfect Corporate Equality Index Score Over Dylan Mulvaney Fiasco

May. 21, 2023

The nation’s largest LGBTQ organization has suspended Anheuser-Busch’s perfect Corporate Equality Index score over the company’s response to the Dylan Mulvaney fiasco.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/nations-largest-lgbtq-org-suspends-anheuser-buschs-perfect/

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Quote: Gandler

Eating is necessary. Eating animal products is not. And, we can end this process by simply stopping the handouts. No, regulations or restrictions would be required.

Eating is necessary.

This necessity is more easily achieved with the lowest cost-to-consumer possible.

Anyway, I'm not going to go around in circles on this. Please present a new argument. I feel like my position(s) are pretty bulletproof on this one thus far.

Quote: odiousgambit

I wouldn't mind the experiment, with the qualification that it has to be done in such a way as there aren't food shortages generally

I think we would find the predictions that meat would become ridiculously expensive to be quite exaggerated

That the price of meat would increase is something that Gandler stipulated and, it would seem, an outcome he would take great delight in. I have no idea why.

Quote: Mission146

That the price of meat would increase is something that Gandler stipulated and, it would seem, an outcome he would take great delight in. I have no idea why.

He said he was Vegan. He didn't say he wanted everybody else to be one, but it apparently would delight him, as you say

and if meat would increase in price it wouldn't surprise me, but how much?

Quote: Mission146

That the price of meat would increase is something that Gandler stipulated and, it would seem, an outcome he would take great delight in. I have no idea why.

I have explained why. The price is kept artificially (dramatically) low through subsidies. The free market should set the price. As a libertarian you should understand this.

All food should be legal, end the subsidies. It's a pretty simple position.

Quote: odiousgambit

He said he was Vegan. He didn't say he wanted everybody else to be one, but it apparently would delight him, as you say

and if meat would increase in price it wouldn't surprise me, but how much?

It's hard to say. Gandler seems to assume many fold. I do not claim to have any idea, but if Gandler is going to hand me that point in advancing his argument, then I will take it.