So does this mean we will see back alley abortions again? I think so

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July 7th, 2022 at 9:53:32 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Gandler
No, a law for humans not having to use their bodies for 9 months in a manner that they do not agree with (being forced to remain pregnant)....


The no exception for rape and incest is abominable. There's not even, the woman took a risk. There's no implied consent at all.

You or any other person can't be forced to give your own brother or sister a kidney to keep them alive if you don't want to. You couldn't even be legally forced to save 100 babies lives with your own body fluids or organs if there is no consent anywhere. Not in this country.
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July 7th, 2022 at 9:56:53 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: AZDuffman
If you had sex without birth control you agreed to become pregnant.


What if the condom broke?
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July 7th, 2022 at 2:07:43 PM permalink
DRich
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Quote: AZDuffman
If you had sex without birth control you agreed to become pregnant.


What if the birth control failed? Personally, I say abort all babies.
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July 7th, 2022 at 2:20:59 PM permalink
Gandler
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Quote: rxwine
The no exception for rape and incest is abominable. There's not even, the woman took a risk. There's no implied consent at all.

You or any other person can't be forced to give your own brother or sister a kidney to keep them alive if you don't want to. You couldn't even be legally forced to save 100 babies lives with your own body fluids or organs if there is no consent anywhere. Not in this country.


There cannot be an exception for rape or incest by their logic, that would still be murder.
July 7th, 2022 at 2:33:04 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Gandler
There cannot be an exception for rape or incest by their logic, that would still be murder.


I basically am just "calling" them on that premise. Once you establish a raped or incest victim doesn't have any responsibility, then what is forced behavior other than enslavement? I can't justify enslaving you no matter how innocent the life I want to save. Enslavement is a crime they are willing to commit.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
July 12th, 2022 at 1:43:04 PM permalink
odiousgambit
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In Ohio, if you rape a child, seems nobody cares. The notorious rapist we heard about is in fact still at large!

https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/activist-tale-of-a-10-year-old-rape-victims-abortion-looks-like-a-lie/
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July 12th, 2022 at 1:45:42 PM permalink
ams288
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Quote: odiousgambit
In Ohio, if you rape a child, seems nobody cares.


That pretty much goes for any red state. Rapist’s rights are more important than the woman’s.
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July 12th, 2022 at 1:57:39 PM permalink
RonC
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Quote: odiousgambit
In Ohio, if you rape a child, seems nobody cares. The notorious rapist we heard about is in fact still at large!

https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/activist-tale-of-a-10-year-old-rape-victims-abortion-looks-like-a-lie/


So much of the press did not bother to fact check this and it got a lot of coverage.

You could tell them just about anything and, if it fit their point of view, they would run with it.

Do journalism courses even teach responsible journalism these days?
July 12th, 2022 at 2:18:05 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: RonC
So much of the press did not bother to fact check this and it got a lot of coverage.

You could tell them just about anything and, if it fit their point of view, they would run with it.

Do journalism courses even teach responsible journalism these days?


Feeding out false stories to promote a cause is always a bad idea.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
July 12th, 2022 at 2:21:11 PM permalink
RonC
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Quote: rxwine
Feeding out false stories to promote a cause is always a bad idea.


I agree. I also would hope journalists would check out stories.
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