General Election 2024

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August 22nd, 2022 at 3:25:31 PM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Gandler
Trump has the lowest average approval rating of any President in our lifetime (I think since Truman or something like that). His "highest" approval rating never went past 49, he never even broke the 50 mark (and his lowest was in the 20s).... Whereas Biden has never dropped below 31% at his worst and his highest was in the mid 60s....

So anyone who thinks that approval ratings are some magic numbers that mean everything, while supporting (or even defending) Trump is inherently contradictory. Or that just need to accept that Trump was a bad President.


And Trump got 90% negative news coverage during a period of peace and prosperity. Biden has the press carrying water for him, not even calling out him for changing the definition of "recession" or his many other disasters. Trump had huge, cheering crowds. Biden cannot draw flies

You need to accept that the polls and media are rigged. You also need to learn that polls do not equal a good or bad POTUS. RESULTS do that. And I have yet to hear a liberal make a case why Trump was bad using results.
The President is a fink.
August 22nd, 2022 at 4:05:59 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: AZDuffman
Trump had huge, cheering crowds. Biden cannot draw flies


Biden was able to attract about 7 million more voters while Donny was drawing those crowds.

What else matters?
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
August 22nd, 2022 at 4:29:45 PM permalink
kenarman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Gandler
Trump has the lowest average approval rating of any President in our lifetime (I think since Truman or something like that). His "highest" approval rating never went past 49, he never even broke the 50 mark (and his lowest was in the 20s).... Whereas Biden has never dropped below 31% at his worst and his highest was in the mid 60s....

So anyone who thinks that approval ratings are some magic numbers that mean everything, while supporting (or even defending) Trump is inherently contradictory. Or that just need to accept that Trump was a bad President.


He was an unpopular president among you lefties. This does not corelate to being a bad president. History will judge him much better than you do.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
August 22nd, 2022 at 4:34:52 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: kenarman
He was an unpopular president among you lefties. This does not corelate to being a bad president. History will judge him much better than you do.


History judges on more than what it saw on PMSNBC.
The President is a fink.
August 22nd, 2022 at 4:41:55 PM permalink
rxwine
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Hey, I just noticed DeSantis never ran a business in his entire life. I guess that means he is running Florida into the ground. Not suitable to be President either.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
August 22nd, 2022 at 4:56:42 PM permalink
ams288
Member since: Apr 21, 2016
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Quote: kenarman
He was an unpopular president among you lefties. This does not corelate to being a bad president. History will judge him much better than you do.


“History will be the judge” is what you righties always say about your sh**ty presidents that run the country into the ground.

Righties said it about GWB too. History hasn’t been too kind to him yet.
“A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman
August 22nd, 2022 at 5:06:07 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Quote: kenarman
He was an unpopular president among you lefties. This does not corelate to being a bad president. History will judge him much better than you do.



Let's bookmark this post for ten years from the end of final Biden's term, and see which President has a higher Historic Average Rating by accredited Historical Ranking groups. (My guess is it will not be Trump as he is already in the bottom quarter solidly, generally the bottom three...)

Trump has so many items that automatically mark against him in such reviews, even if Biden turns into a turdball his next two or six years, he will still easily outrank Trump in any kind of standardized review.
August 22nd, 2022 at 5:09:14 PM permalink
Gandler
Member since: Aug 15, 2019
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Quote: AZDuffman
And Trump got 90% negative news coverage during a period of peace and prosperity. Biden has the press carrying water for him, not even calling out him for changing the definition of "recession" or his many other disasters. Trump had huge, cheering crowds. Biden cannot draw flies

You need to accept that the polls and media are rigged. You also need to learn that polls do not equal a good or bad POTUS. RESULTS do that. And I have yet to hear a liberal make a case why Trump was bad using results.



Its funny how opinion polls are only rigged when they go against your narrative.

Trump was bad on results, personality, and consistency. What was good about him, his hair?
August 22nd, 2022 at 5:28:19 PM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Quote: Gandler


Trump has so many items that automatically mark against him in such reviews, even if Biden turns into a turdball his next two or six years, he will still easily outrank Trump in any kind of standardized review.


Yeah, all those bad things.

Lower taxes
Not getting us into a war
Getting Arab nations and Israel together
Prosperity
Great response to the China Virus
Standing up to China unfair trade
Getting us out of bad treaties
Getting NATO members to start paying for their defense

Just a few things.

Biden, OTOH, has been nothing but a disaster. His claim to fame so far is increasing taxes. Only idiots like higher taxes.
The President is a fink.
August 22nd, 2022 at 5:34:50 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
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Posts: 11786
Quote: kenarman
He was an unpopular president among you lefties. This does not corelate to being a bad president. History will judge him much better than you do.

ROTFL
2020 He lost the Presidency, House and Senate
Oh and let's not forget impeachment
Impeachment is the worst thing to have on a President's resume
I have absolutely no doubt historians will not be kind
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"