Crime Thread

Quote: Tanko

The parole board on NYS is hand picked by the Governor to a six-year term. Most members of the present board were appointed by Cuomo.

Cuomo's parole board just paroled its thirty-eighth cop killer in six years. This one grabbed his victim by his hair and shot him in his face as he laid paralyzed on the sidewalk pleading for his life.

'NYPD cop killer freed by parole board despite execution-style murder'

He should never have been allowed out of prison. I do not know the details of all 38, there may be some that are more gray areas, but this guy is just absurd to let out.

Haven't seen any gray areas yet.

'Widow ‘Heartbroken' as Man Convicted in 1971 NYPD Cops' Slayings Is Granted Parole'

NYPD Officers Piagantini and Jones were responding to a call, which was actually a trap where they were ambushed and executed.

One of the killers died in prison. The other was paroled by Cuomo's parole board.

NYPD Officer Edward Byrne was murdered by drug dealers while guarding the home of a witness; he was just 22 years old. One of his killers was granted parole. The others will likely be granted parole when the face the parole board in the next years.

Not missing out on a change to get their vote, Cuomo also signed a law that restores the voting rights of all parolees.

Quote: Tanko

...The others will likely be granted parole when the face the parole board in the next years.

The only thing cold-blooded killers deserve to face is their maker via the express lane (with reasonable appeals, of course, to be fair to them before sitting them down in the hot seat).

About a dozen teens between ages 14-17 beat another teen to death in Las Vegas over a cell phone, and wireless headphones. They have 8 of them but are looking for more. Now I'm doubting most them thought it would kill him, but when a bunch of people get their blows in, the cumulative effect can certainly exceed the intention. Or it just takes one blow in the right place.

Anyway, if convicted what would your sentence be?

Quote: rxwine

About a dozen teens between ages 14-17 beat another teen to death in Las Vegas over a cell phone, and wireless headphones. They have 8 of them but are looking for more. Now I'm doubting most them thought it would kill him, but when a bunch of people get their blows in, the cumulative effect can certainly exceed the intention. Or it just takes one blow in the right place.

Anyway, if convicted what would your sentence be?

20 years to Life.

If you hit someone, you can kill them. In this case, they did.

It is time to stop being soft on crime and to punish murderers, attackers, thieves, etc. harshly. The potential inmates are running the asylum.

There are people that don't need to be in prison and there are some asking to be sent there. Grant their wish.

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Former state senator Dean Tran(R) arrested on 28 charges of Covid unemployment fraud

In 2005, Tran became the first person of color elected to the Fitchburg City Council.[5] On December 5, 2017, after 12 years as city councilor, Tran won a special election to replace outgoing state senator Jennifer Flanagan for State Senate representing the Worcester and Middlesex district, by less than 700 votes.[6] He ran as an advocate for fiscal discipline and low taxes.

Quote: rxwine

Anyway, if convicted what would your sentence be?

Our current system does little to rehabilitate offenders: we just warehouse them.

I've long wondered why techniques similar to those used on Alex in "A Clockwork Orange" haven't been explored further.

The movie employed a rather basic form of behavior modification, causing the subject to feel violently ill when viewing the types of criminal acts that got him in trouble.

Anyway, why not focus on actually changing prisoners using psychology?

Quote: missedhervee

Anyway, why not focus on actually changing prisoners using psychology?

Because people cannot be changed. I am not talking about a few rare exceptions. I am talking human nature.

You first have to realize there are different groups of prisoners.

Some are otherwise homeless who want a warm bed and three squares a day. They are institutionalized and will not survive outside.

Some did a crime of passion or something stupid on a drunken night. The need no rehabilitation as after their time they will get back to life.

Some are gangsters to whom prison does not bother. It is an occupational hazard.

Some are bad crooks, like the kid in "Shawshank Redemption" who just get caught all the time.

Some are sick types. Serial killers and sex offenders.

The last 3 groups are a waste of time to try to rehabilitate.

Quote: missedhervee

Our current system does little to rehabilitate offenders: we just warehouse them.

I've long wondered why techniques similar to those used on Alex in "A Clockwork Orange" haven't been explored further.

The movie employed a rather basic form of behavior modification, causing the subject to feel violently ill when viewing the types of criminal acts that got him in trouble.

Anyway, why not focus on actually changing prisoners using psychology?

Friend is a psychologist working in a State Prison. Years ago probably thought he could ‘help’. He works at ‘rehabilitating’ sex offenders. Has come to realize how few inmates are ‘helpable’. Says the majority of what he does is a total waste of time (and resources).