What Movies Have You Seen Lately?

August 4th, 2017 at 6:18:16 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Evenbob
I can't imagine seeing this without reading
the books first. Why is the gunslinger
black, he wasn't black in the books. It's
silly, why did they do it. Dark Tower is
a deeply insightful series of books,
impossible to make sense of in a movie.
I'm sure I will hate it.


I think the movie would have gotten a lot more promotion had it really captured the books well.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
August 4th, 2017 at 6:22:28 AM permalink
Ayecarumba
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Quote: Evenbob
I can't imagine seeing this without reading
the books first. Why is the gunslinger
black, he wasn't black in the books. It's
silly, why did they do it. Dark Tower is
a deeply insightful series of books,
impossible to make sense of in a movie.
I'm sure I will hate it.

The character is written in the movie without race. You could put a white, asian or latino in just as easily. There is a spiritual quality to the character as he chants a mantra of sorts. He is supposed to represent good, while Matthew McConaughy is evil.

Did the gunman's race matter in the books?

There was a trailer for "Black Panther" before the movie. That's a film where race matters.
August 4th, 2017 at 6:28:16 AM permalink
Ayecarumba
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Quote: rxwine
I think the movie would have gotten a lot more promotion had it really captured the books well.


What was the last Stephen King book done well as a movie?

The only ones I really liked weren't even books: "Stand By Me" and "The Green Mile" were both short stories.
August 4th, 2017 at 7:12:08 AM permalink
ams288
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Quote: Ayecarumba
What was the last Stephen King book done well as a movie?

The only ones I really liked weren't even books: "Stand By Me" and "The Green Mile" were both short stories.


Don't forget The Shawshank Redemption!

Frank Darabont (director of Shawshank. The Green Mile, and The Mist) seems to be the best at adapting Stephen King stuff...
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August 4th, 2017 at 7:36:45 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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For what it's worth, Rotten Tomatoes ranking of the Stephen King adaptions in order of year and by percentage..

1976 93% Carrie
1980 87% Shining
1982 69% Creepshow
1983 68% Christine
1983 60% Cujo
1984 39% Firestarter
1984 38% Children of the Corn
1985 69% Cat’s Eye
1985 47% Silver Bullet
1986 91% Stand By Me
1986 17% Maximum Overdrive
1987 63% The Running Man
1989 46% Pet Semetary
1990 89% Misery
1990 13% Graveyard Shift
1992 37% The Lawnmower Man
1993 57% The Dark Half
1993 26% Needful Things
1994 91% The Shawshank Redemption
1994 27% The Mangler
1995 82% Dolores Claiborne
1996 16% Thinner
1998 53% Apt Pupil
1998 33% The Night Flier
1999 80% The Green Mile
2001 49% Hearts in Atlantis
2003 30% Dreamcatcher
2004 46% Secret Window
2004 27% Riding the Bullet
2007 72% The Mist
2013 48% Carrie
2014 35% A Good Marriage
2016 11% Cell

93% 1976 Carrie
91% 1986 Stand By Me
91% 1994 The Shawshank Redemption
89% 1990 Misery
87% 1980 Shining
82% 1995 Dolores Claiborne
80% 1999 The Green Mile
72% 2007 The Mist
69% 1982 Creepshow
69% 1985 Cat’s Eye
68% 1983 Christine
63% 1987 The Running Man
60% 1983 Cujo
57% 1993 The Dark Half
53% 1998 Apt Pupil
49% 2001 Hearts in Atlantis
48% 2013 Carrie
47% 1985 Silver Bullet
46% 1989 Pet Semetary
46% 2004 Secret Window
39% 1984 Firestarter
38% 1984 Children of the Corn
37% 1992 The Lawnmower Man
35% 2014 A Good Marriage
33% 1998 The Night Flier
30% 2003 Dreamcatcher
27% 1994 The Mangler
27% 2004 Riding the Bullet
26% 1993 Needful Things
17% 1986 Maximum Overdrive
16% 1996 Thinner
13% 1990 Graveyard Shift
11% 2016 Cell
August 4th, 2017 at 4:18:57 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Ayecarumba
The character is written in the movie without race. You could put a white, asian or latino in just as easily..


I love it when people think race doesn't
matter. Try having whites portray American
Indians in movies today and see what
happens. Or having all white martial
arts people in a karate movie. Race always
matters, no matter what people say.

In the original DT book there were illustrations
and the gunslinger was white. It only 'doesn't matter'
when a white is replaced with a different race.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 4th, 2017 at 4:53:03 PM permalink
Mosca
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Quote: Evenbob
I generally hate war movies and that
would ruin it for me. I waited 15 years
to see Saving Private Ryan and was
bored to tears. Battle scenes are
always so contrived to me. If you ever
see film of real battle scenes, they're
nothing like they show in the movies.
For one thing, there's always a lot
more smoke, and on a film set smoke
only obscures everything.


That is the "fog of war". It isn't an expression, it is a description. Visit Gettysburg, and look from Seminary Ridge down Chambersburg Pike. Then imagine it completely filled with the smoke of thousands of discharged muskets. The fog of war.
August 4th, 2017 at 6:12:05 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Mosca
. Then imagine it completely filled with the smoke of thousands of discharged muskets. The fog of war.


Go to a CW re-inactment, it's a wall of black powder
smoke. It's a wonder they hit anything in the real war,
they couldn't have aimed at anything.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 4th, 2017 at 6:55:06 PM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: Evenbob
I love it when people think race doesn't
matter. Try having whites portray American
Indians in movies today and see what
happens. Or having all white martial
arts people in a karate movie. Race always
matters, no matter what people say.

In the original DT book there were illustrations
and the gunslinger was white. It only 'doesn't matter'
when a white is replaced with a different race.


Whites as Indians --is as dumb as making all the Southern plantation slave owners of the blacks as black people disguised as Whites.

Although the idea makes for interesting satire.

But I don't recall gunslinger being a race either way, so I don't think it matters.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
August 4th, 2017 at 7:32:24 PM permalink
zippyboy
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I didn't read the book, haven't seen the movie, but who cares if the Gunslinger is black? Gunslingers can't be black?? C'mon Bob! There was a black gunslinger in Django Unchained too...did you complain about that? At least that took place in slavery times, so it mattered, but in Dark Tower...does it matter at all?