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June 4th, 2019 at 11:39:06 AM permalink
rxwine
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All you need is quick reflex.

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June 4th, 2019 at 2:59:39 PM permalink
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That's awesome and I hate it. I don't like fish... walkin' and stuff
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June 16th, 2019 at 11:53:29 AM permalink
petroglyph
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What broke on the boat? It's seems about time for Schadenfreude ? lol
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June 17th, 2019 at 1:24:47 PM permalink
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Quote: petroglyph
What broke on the boat? It's seems about time for Schadenfreude ? lol


Dunno if there'll be much for ya. I'm just sort of mildly put out.

And I have no idea. Went with the kid and it was perfect. Returned with a crew the next week, did the shallow stuff, did ~45min of idle trolling, everything seemed normal. Went the very next day idle trolling with the kid, it all started fine, and then after a long troll I just throttled up and it all went to hell. Spittin', sputterin', backfiring. I kept it running a little above idle just cuz of the last issue with the water, but we trolled dead into the wind and the wind was coming from land; lake was as smooth as you'd want it. So we chugged for a bit before I pulled it out of gear and revved it a touch; it coughed and seemed to get to 2.5k just fine. Let it fall, put it in gear, and spittin' and sputterin'.

I couldn't figure it, and after $3k, I'm not going to. I kept it lit and just trolled back home, eventually dying for good when slowing to enter the launch. Could light it out of gear with throttle, but couldn't drop to put it in gear. F@#$ if I know. I flagged down the first boat I saw (~2min) and got towed the last 35' to the dock lol.

Boat guy says fuel filter was water free, it has spark and fuel. He suspected a loose intake manifold, sprayed it and it revved, put a socket on it and said he got ~2hrs rotation (12oclock to 2). I packed it up there and went right to the wrench. Put the boat somewhere dry and it goes back to him on Weds.

So iono. It's not my problem to fix =p And it's rained 28 out of the last 25 days (not a typo =p) I'm not missing anything yet.
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June 17th, 2019 at 6:09:12 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Dunno if there'll be much for ya. I'm just sort of mildly put out.

And I have no idea. Went with the kid and it was perfect. Returned with a crew the next week, did the shallow stuff, did ~45min of idle trolling, everything seemed normal. Went the very next day idle trolling with the kid, it all started fine, and then after a long troll I just throttled up and it all went to hell. Spittin', sputterin', backfiring. I kept it running a little above idle just cuz of the last issue with the water, but we trolled dead into the wind and the wind was coming from land; lake was as smooth as you'd want it. So we chugged for a bit before I pulled it out of gear and revved it a touch; it coughed and seemed to get to 2.5k just fine. Let it fall, put it in gear, and spittin' and sputterin'.
Does that thing have a trolling plate [that dampens prop thrust}, tow a bucket, or how do you keep it down at troll speed?


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I couldn't figure it, and after $3k, I'm not going to.
Been there, spent that.


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Boat guy says fuel filter was water free, it has spark and fuel.
Since the oil separator body is non clear, I used to dribble some fluid out of the body into a glass jar so I could look for water bubbles, and other detritus.

Once after me sputtering back to the dock, after spending gobs of money having my fuel tanks redone, I did just that, checked the fluid from the body in a glass jar and no bubbles. Called the Honda man to get down there because the engines were brand new. He did the same thing, the top two carbs are set up so you can pull a fuel line so you can do that. We filled a pint Mason jar, still no bubbles! Because it was all water. There was no gas in it. The guy that changed my fuel tanks had stored my fuel in an oil drum but didn't know about leaving them tipped so rain water doesn't leak into the drum. He than pumped everything back into my tanks, including a few gallons of water. Thought I'd share?


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He suspected a loose intake manifold, sprayed it and it revved, put a socket on it and said he got ~2hrs rotation (12oclock to 2). I packed it up there and went right to the wrench. Put the boat somewhere dry and it goes back to him on Weds.

So iono. It's not my problem to fix =p And it's rained 28 out of the last 25 days (not a typo =p) I'm not missing anything yet.
You made me curious because I'm no mechanic, just broke a lot of stuff.

Just guessing that you have an aluminum intake? So I googled, wtf is the torque on an aluminum intake manifold?

We all know there is a torquing order, so for no particular reason I perused this. http://www.felpro-only.com/break_room_forum/showthread.php?tid=2438

"If you have the MS 98004 T set - with the problem-solving PermaDryPlus gaskets - the torque spec is 115 in-lbs for the 4 center bolts and 18 ft-lbs. for the corner bolts. We recommend tightening them from the center out starting at 50 in-lbs first. You will have to do the torque sequence 2 or 3 times as there is a lot of rubber to squeeze down. Once the bolts stop moving, move the torque wrench up to 115 in-lbs, again tightening them 2 or 3 times. Then finally tighten the 4 corner bolts to 18 ft. lbs."

And my hunter gatherer brain says, "my goodness" 18 ft. lbs. is nothing. Wouldn't be hard at all with an 18 inch handle to pull say 20lbs. Noon to two? Just tossing it out there, from a continent away. How old is the liquid in your fuel tank? No way this is the exact same fuel we were talking about last year after you paddled back in, right?
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