Original Sin?

April 1st, 2017 at 3:05:24 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: pew
For tomorrow you will die.
That is what I meant by 'wishing you were in Utah'... if you die and find out there is indeed a hell, that is likely the only circumstance where one would wish to be in Utah instead.
April 2nd, 2017 at 6:44:31 AM permalink
pew
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I'd like to see Utah. Mormons not so much.
April 2nd, 2017 at 8:05:44 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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I imagine its impressive scenery and a relatively pleasant climate but its things like: no smoking near the Mormon Temple, no coffee or tea in stores or restaurants, no bars (officially a over regulated industry).
Ski country is probably for the young and healthy.
Alot of Mormons were hire in Vegas... they can work in a casino but are considered honest.
April 26th, 2017 at 2:47:12 PM permalink
rxwine
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I don't really know much about this, but they've got Jesus crucified about 1000 times in the scenery. (Wait for distant shot. must be VERY Catholic)

No one has ever proven I am not God.
April 26th, 2017 at 2:49:56 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: rxwine
I don't really know much about this, but they've got Jesus crucified about 1000 times in the scenery.


Talk about overkill. (pun intended)
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 1st, 2017 at 2:24:26 PM permalink
Evenbob
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The Amazing Randi's thoughts on god: (2min long)

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 1st, 2017 at 4:42:04 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Randi gives a very good critique of the "God of the gaps" argument. I agree with him here.

However, using his example of getting hit on the back of the head by a rock. You can reasonable be assured that some force acted upon that rock to make it move. No one would doubt this. That the universe is in motion no one doubts, it is clear. In fact now we know that the universe is expanding. There has to be some cause, some force or God that causes this action. This is not a God of the gaps scenario. This is just logic and facts leading to the unavoidable conclusion that there must be something that first caused the universe to begin, to expand, to move.
May 1st, 2017 at 5:27:41 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
Randi gives a very good critique of the "God of the gaps" argument.
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He makes the point that he's an atheist
because he was allowed to look at
religion with an open investigative mind.
He avoided the curiosity killing indoctrination
into the religion period when he was a kid.
90%+ of a persons belief system comes from
it being spoon fed to them in their most
formative years. Hard if not impossible to
shake that much hardcore indoctrination.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
May 1st, 2017 at 7:01:09 PM permalink
FrGamble
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He mentions nothing about this in the clip you posted. This is your own idea that is not based in reality. The truth is people change their ideas all the time when they really think about them, including their religious beliefs. You should really think critically about your atheism or at least actually address the question instead of just saying whatever you think will make you feel better.
May 1st, 2017 at 8:22:19 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
He mentions nothing about this in the clip you posted.


My mistake, it's in this 2 min video. I watched
several and mixed up which info was in what
video.

If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.