Original Sin?
June 13th, 2017 at 11:29:05 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Of course it is, going by your guidelines of what sin is. According to you, this is the very thing Jesus died on the cross for, you beating yourself up on the way home for cheating the waiter out of money he depends on for a living. But Christians can take solace that Jesus died for just this type of 'sin' and he forgives you. So forget about it, Jesus says it's OK. And you wonder why atheists think Xtionity is a bunch of hooey.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 13th, 2017 at 11:31:55 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
I don't know, I don't and wouldn't do those things. That's the key, you know, don't behave like that to start with. Don't act like an ass and then expect some god to forgive you. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 13th, 2017 at 11:34:56 AM permalink | |
pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | I've never heard that before. Could you give an example of a sense of justice or forgiveness among animals? Sounds pretty farfetched to me. Unless you're talking Disney animals. |
June 13th, 2017 at 11:43:24 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
The fact that you would even be worried about the waiter shows that forgetting the tip was an honest mistake and not done with the purpose of depriving the waiter of what he or she needs. Jesus died on the cross to exactly set us free from beating ourselves up - why don't you get this?!?
Do you think its a bunch of hooey because you don't think God should forgive you for small sins or that you don't think God should forgive us for anything? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 13th, 2017 at 12:59:01 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
I get it just fine, as I outlined in the post. Jesus died not for offenses against god, but for all the little things we do in life that make us feel bad, as you have stated many times. He died for nothing, in other words. He's just a psychological bandage you apply when you have a bad day. And they made a religion out of this baloney? Good grief.
What god, there is no god. If you do things constantly that need forgiveness, you have far bigger problems than inventing a god to forgive you. It's time to seek some kind of help from a shrink. I cannot remember one time in my life when I did something so bad that I needed the forgiveness of others for it. I try and avoid that kind of behavior before I do it. Don't you? If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 13th, 2017 at 1:14:24 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
What about working on Sunday? 3rd commandment? Sin? http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c1a3.htm "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
June 13th, 2017 at 1:26:03 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Saturday. Man, Hell must be littered with bemused Christians ;) Now, seriously: why should that be a "sin"? Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
June 13th, 2017 at 1:26:41 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
What are you talking about? The little things and the big things. God came to set us free from anything we do to hurt ourselves or others. He came to show us that true happiness and joy is found is serving and giving ourselves to others in love. So yes, he died for all our offenses the little and the small and to show us the way to live. Again I ask you to think of it like a loving father. When you do something that causes you pain or guilt your father forgives you and helps you to live rightly.
There is surely a God you are surely forgetting the many times in our own conversations when you have said things that have made you feel bad and I know I have said some things to you that I regret. However, what you have done to other members on this forum are far worse; I think you have even been suspended for it. If you cannot remember one time in your life when you have needed to ask forgiveness of others I urge you to run, do not walk, to the nearest hospital or psychologist because you are manifesting psychopathic tendencies. I am glad that you try to avoid such behavior but surely you have not been perfect in avoiding saying or doing things that have cause hurt or pain to others. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 13th, 2017 at 1:48:44 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
It's pretty pathetic that we need a god to make us feel better for being such a jerk that we hurt others all the time. Here's an idea, quit using a made up god as a crutch and try and be a better person so you don't need constant forgiveness for being an a-hole to people Sheesh.. They made up a religion for this?
There most assuredly is not. You confuse your hopes and fantasies with reality. If there was one I cannot think of a single thing I would ask forgiveness for, why would I. Take responsibility for your actions, you should grow out of that stage of needing forgiveness at about the age of 7 or so. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 13th, 2017 at 2:17:15 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
My jaw is on he floor reading this. My hypocrite meter has burst and I am just flabbergasted that you would say this.
Seriously, you should check yourself in somewhere for observation. Good luck. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |