Original Sin?
June 14th, 2017 at 11:17:43 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
"I don't object to the concept of a deity, but I'm baffled by one who takes attendance." Amy in The Big Bang Theory. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
June 14th, 2017 at 11:27:06 AM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | How many commandments does your church have? What is the 4th? Did your church switch the order they come in? Someone down at corporate should consider that when they change the meanings from the OT into the NT, and then alter the obvious meanings as written it kinda turns away what might be considered open minded, "non faithful". Reminiscent of bait and switch at a car dealer. this is what is offered, but this is what you get The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
June 14th, 2017 at 11:32:41 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
The two places we find the 10 Commandments are Exodus 20:2-17 and Deut. 5:6-21. There is a difference in the Catholic and Protestant numbering but the commandments are the same. The OT meaning was the Sabbath, which is the same meaning for the early Christians who understood the Day that Christ raised from the dead, the day after the Sabbath, as the new Day of the Lord. I don't see how the meaning of the commandment has been changed greatly. In fact it was important for Jews on the Sabbath to rest and gather together and we do the same today as our elder brothers and sisters in the faith now on Sunday. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 14th, 2017 at 11:44:33 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Logic dictates that wasn't a day of rest, whereas the prior day was one of ultimate rest.
Oh, no. not even close. there's nothing quite as comical as Orthodox Jews coping with the Sabbath. The irony is they call it a day of rest. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
June 14th, 2017 at 12:08:30 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
the bold part you have told us that there is no change in absolute fundamental morality, or something like that. I figured you couldn't get much more fundamental than the 10 commandments. However it seems clear the church's position on how serious of a sin it is to work on Sunday has changed over the years. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
June 14th, 2017 at 12:10:54 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 |
Since sin doesn't exist and is made up fantasy, it's easy to move the goal posts around on it. For sin to exist, there first has to be a god to sin against. Which there obviously is not. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
June 14th, 2017 at 1:55:09 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | At least slaves used to get a day off. The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
June 14th, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | The Church's position on the 3rd Commandment hasn't changed nor has the moral laws revealed by God. I think you would be surprised by the leniency granted in moral theology. This should not be read as abandoning the truth but rather having compassion and understanding. There is a difference in saying, "Oh, don't worry about it." And saying, "Let's try to figure out the best way you can live out this Commandment." “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 14th, 2017 at 2:04:01 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Every jubilee year all the slaves were freed. Of course you have to understand the difference in the word slave the Scripture uses and the modern conception of slave you are probably thinking of. By the way I heard an alarming claim the other day that the worldwide problem of slavery has never been worse. Let us continue to pray like Moses, "Let my people go!" “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
June 14th, 2017 at 2:06:32 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
Ha, I have to laugh at your ridiculous circle argument here. And from someone who claims to never make a mistake?!? You can still commit a sin even if you don't believe in God, no matter what Webster's dictionary might tell you. If you have injured in any way yourself, others, or society you have sinned. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |