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Original Sin?
| September 19th, 2017 at 2:28:16 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Obvious to who? In Buddhism there is no concept of sin at all. The Buddha Dharma Education Association also expressly states "The idea of sin or original sin has no place in Buddhism." Or: "The concept of original sin is completely foreign to Judaism and Eastern Christianity, having achieved acceptance in only the Western Church. And the concept of original sin simply does not exist in Islam either, and never has." Need I go on? It's not obvious at all, or true. It's a sales technique and an insult to the intelligence. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| September 19th, 2017 at 7:50:21 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
None of these have sources and the second one I know for a fact to be false concerning Eastern Christianity. Are you trying to say the Buddhism has no laws or rules that can be broken, that there is nothing anyone can do that is wrong? Does not a Buddhist try very hard to eliminate any passion so as not to be suffer? This suffering from our passions or desires could be considered a type of original sin from which we are to be taught by the Buddha how to find enlightenment. Sin is the most obvious of all things to every human being who has ever lived and to ever religion. What is insulting to our intelligence and makes me question yours is that you would think you or anyone has not sinned or been tempted to do what is wrong or not do what is right. Please just stop it and admit when you are wrong. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| September 19th, 2017 at 8:58:32 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Oh no, what have I done. I let you drag me back into this endless discussion about sin. At this point I always say that sin doesn't exist, there is no god to sin against. Then you try and explain that sin is not about god, and I post 14 dictionary definitions that say sin is a direct violation of gods law. Then you try and say that sin is anytime you feel bad about something, and I say that's ridiculous, Jesus didn't die because I pulled my sisters hair this morning and now regret it. He died in the myth because of what Adam and Eve did, original sin, not because I stole a parking space at the mall from a guy who was there first. Any of this ringing a bell? If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| September 20th, 2017 at 5:34:23 AM permalink | |
| pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | Hey evenbob. Please move on. |
| September 21st, 2017 at 11:43:15 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
I finally found David Meade's website http://writers-web-services.com/ It turns out that he is not actually predicting the end of the world tomorrow. What will happen on the twenty-third is a magnificent sign in the skies over Jerusalem, a historical event signaling an upcoming “Tribulation Period” of seven years. I don’t know when the Rapture will happen. I expect nothing to happen in September. In 1590, Francisco Ribera, a Catholic Jesuit, taught "futurism," the idea that most of Revelation was about the future rather than about the Catholic Church. He also taught that the rapture would happen 45 days before the end of a 3.5-year tribulation. Other than Ribera, the idea of a rapture seems completely alien to the Catholic Church. But the idea is very old in the Protestant church.
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| September 22nd, 2017 at 10:46:02 AM permalink | |
| petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | Isn't it supposed to be a sign of the end times beginning? The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
| September 22nd, 2017 at 10:51:28 AM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Or the beginning times ending? It's so hard to keep up with religious crackpots, which is anybody who thinks the supernatural is a real place. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| September 22nd, 2017 at 11:00:38 AM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Evenbob, in your version of reincarnation where do these disembodied memories and thoughts go after a person dies and before they enter into a child? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| September 22nd, 2017 at 11:34:45 AM permalink | |
| Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
The cloud :) Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
| September 22nd, 2017 at 11:43:58 AM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Just another part of reality, nothing 'super' about it. No god involved, just reality that's been here forever in one form or another. " ..there are good reasons to think that consciousness can be considered a separate entity from physical reality. And in fact, some leading scientists in the past, like Max Planck, who's the father of quantum theory, said that he viewed consciousness as fundamental and that matter was derived from it. So in that case, it would mean that consciousness would not necessarily be dependent on a physical brain in order to survive, and could continue after the physical brain and after the body dies. In these cases, it seems - at least, on the face of it - that a consciousness has then become attached to a new brain, and has shown up as past life memories." http://www.npr.org/2014/01/05/259886077/searching-for-science-behind-reincarnation If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |