Original Sin?

September 22nd, 2017 at 12:36:55 PM permalink
pew
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Quote: Evenbob
Just another part of reality, nothing 'super'
about it. No god involved, just reality that's
been here forever in one form or another.

" ..there are good reasons to think that consciousness can be considered a separate entity from physical reality. And in fact, some leading scientists in the past, like Max Planck, who's the father of quantum theory, said that he viewed consciousness as fundamental and that matter was derived from it. So in that case, it would mean that consciousness would not necessarily be dependent on a physical brain in order to survive, and could continue after the physical brain and after the body dies. In these cases, it seems - at least, on the face of it - that a consciousness has then become attached to a new brain, and has shown up as past life memories."

http://www.npr.org/2014/01/05/259886077/searching-for-science-behind-reincarnation
No more religious statement has ever been made here or anywhere else. Evenbob, just admit it you are a zealot.
September 22nd, 2017 at 12:56:12 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: pew
No more religious statement has ever been made here or anywhere else. .


As I said, you have no idea what religion
even is, how could you. You believe the
claptrap of Xtionity, any credibility you
might have goes right out the window.
You'll believe anything. lol
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 23rd, 2017 at 7:35:42 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Bob you can't say there is no supernatural when you clearly believe that the consciousness goes to another reality when the material person dies only to come back over and over. You are holding to these quantam theories and confusing ideas with all kinds of problems like what happens when there are more babies born than disembodied consciousnesses waiting to enter a body? Your broken idea is based in the clouds and you have the audacity to attack pew who holds to a religion that centers on a historical human figure that changed the world to such a degree that our years are based on His birth?!? You need to look into the mirror on this one.
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September 23rd, 2017 at 10:29:11 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
Bob you can't say there is no supernatural .


Sure I can. Just like when your Church
thought everything bad that happened
was should be blamed on the supernatural.
Your crops fail, your baby is stillborn, your
cow stops giving milk, your well dries up.
Find some poor woman and burn her at
the stake for casting a spell on you. The
supernatural was blamed for everything.

There is a logical scientific reason for anything
we know, it always comes out in the end.
When a doctor proved with science that not
washing your hands between surgeries in a
hospital was a major cause of patient infection,
he was almost laughed out of the profession.
Everyone knew the real reason was supernatural.
It took decades for the practice to catch on.

Science is slowly uncovering what consciousness is
all about and it has nothing to do with some god
or his minions. It never does..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 23rd, 2017 at 1:38:31 PM permalink
pew
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"Science is slowly uncovering what consciousness is
all about and it has nothing to do with some god
or his minions. It never does.. " No it's not. Consciousness is not subject to scientific study. It's time for you to move on. Take an uber to one of your atheist conventions and discuss your ridiculous theories there. You'll be the source of great humor for for the assembled non- believers. Ha Ha Ha.
September 23rd, 2017 at 3:30:38 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: pew
Consciousness is not subject to scientific study. .


Better not tell the science world, they're
studying it like crazy. It's called 'neuroscience'
and it's not in the Bible, sorry. In fact, it's
a threat to religion, that's why you're so
terrified of it.

Scientists Closing in on Theory of Consciousness

https://www.livescience.com/47096-theories-seek-to-explain-consciousness.html
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 23rd, 2017 at 4:44:03 PM permalink
pew
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You can't be serious. There's nothing there for science to study. Your trolling is the height of banality. Whatever thread you poison it's always the same. Make totally ridiculous statements and hope someone will respond. Well I too am responding, to call you out you troll.
September 23rd, 2017 at 5:15:47 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: pew
You can't be serious. There's nothing there for science to study.


Tell them, don't tell me. They give
degrees in this field, they need to
hear from you so they can stop
doing that. (snicker)
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
September 23rd, 2017 at 7:14:44 PM permalink
pew
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Quote: Evenbob
Tell them, don't tell me. They give
degrees in this field, they need to
hear from you so they can stop
doing that. (snicker)
They give degrees in bible too, so what. Move on.
September 24th, 2017 at 8:54:54 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob
Better not tell the science world, they're
studying it like crazy. It's called 'neuroscience'


Neuroscience is not the study of consciousness and you know it.
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