Original Sin?

August 13th, 2018 at 4:33:35 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob
It's because they know their case
for belief is so flimsy. You can
easily piss off and rattle a Xtion
by just being logical and factual
with them. They don't want to
think about that stuff, they don't
want their magical beliefs messed
with.


Says the guy who runs away angry and doesn't want to talk anymore. It turns out atheists are much more rattled by logic and facts.
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August 13th, 2018 at 11:24:56 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: petroglyph
But it's not harmless. .


It's the opposite of harmless on
so many levels. This is from
yesterday:

The Vatican Continues to Struggle With Sex Abuse Scandals

VATICAN CITY — With revelation after revelation, a new wave of sexual abuse scandals is rocking the Roman Catholic Church and presenting Pope Francis with the greatest crisis of his papacy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/why-the-vatican-continues-to-struggle-with-sex-abuse-scandals/2018/08/12/483e16e2-9439-11e8-818b-e9b7348cd87d_story.html?utm_term=.b85343f426b2

If you read the article, it's just the
Church covering up again, it's
all a secret, bishops investigating
other bishops and lifting the rug for
the sweeping. Such an awful and
corrupt organization, yet they
have the gall to present themselves
as the moral arbiters of the world.
What a cruel joke the Church has
played on the humanity for the last
1000 years.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 13th, 2018 at 11:45:44 AM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: FrGamble
I kind of wish you would ask the question if the Church requires someone to stay in an abusive marriage? You would find that the true answer is no. You don't seem to know what you are railing against.
Are you saying that your church approves of divorce in an abusive relationship?
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August 13th, 2018 at 12:47:11 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: petroglyph
Are you saying that your church approves of divorce in an abusive relationship?


The Church goes one step further and says that not only is there a civil divorce, but a marriage properly understood did not even exist.
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August 13th, 2018 at 2:47:22 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Thomas Jefferson was so offended by
the supernatural in the NT, that he
took a razor and cut out anything
that referred to a supernatural act.
No miracles, no raising
from the dead. He made his own
Bible with what was left, called
the Jefferson Bible. It's on display
at the Smithsonian.

This makes me feel close to Jefferson.
The supernatural nonsense offends
me no end, good for him that he
took it a step further.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
August 13th, 2018 at 6:47:04 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Imagine for a moment being offended by the supernatural. What a sad state? There is so much in us that rises above our nature. Our staggering intellect that allows human beings alone to create such amazing technology, music, and art. Our will to sacrifice and often times go against or above our nature's call to self preservation to save another. The love of family and friends can be miraculous. We know that our natural world cannot have a natural cause so running from the supernatural is to never understand why we are here or just importantly who we are and what we are called to do. Jesus reveals the fact that the supernatural nature of humanity is the most real and most important aspect of who we are.
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August 14th, 2018 at 1:58:29 PM permalink
Evenbob
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In today's news:

301 ‘Predator Priests’ Named In Pa. Grand Jury Sex Abuse Report: ‘They Were Raping Little Boys & Girls’

“One boy was forced to stand on a bed in a rectory, strip naked and pose as Christ on the cross for the priests. They took photos of their victim, adding them to a collection of child pornography which they produced and shared on church grounds,” Shapiro said.
Shapiro said the priests would mark their victims by giving them gifts.
“To make it easier to target their victims, the priests gave their favored boys gifts – gold crosses to wear as necklaces. The crosses were markings of which boys had been groomed for abuse,” Shapiro said.

Is it any wonder that atheists hate
this hypocritical church? The cover
up was 'massive and sophistacated'
and the only reason it's been curtailed
somewhat is they got caught. These
'men of god' would still be at it if not
for that. Sickening.

'Men of God Hid it All': Church Protected More Than 300 'Predator Priests' in Pa.

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/08/14/pennsylvania-diocese-sex-abuse-grand-jury-report-released/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pennsylvania-report-on-alleged-child-abuse-by-priests-set-to-be-released-1534261690

https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2018/08/14/pa-grand-jury-report-catholic-clergy-sexual-abuse-names-details-catholic-dioceses/948937002/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/08/14/grand-jury-report-pennsylvania-details-abuse-catholic-priests/980687002/
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August 14th, 2018 at 6:11:23 PM permalink
petroglyph
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I can't help but the kids that are molested may grow up to be abusers themselves, getting raped as a kid would mess up your head forever. How can there be so many, that have been getting away with it for so long?

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/more-2300-suspected-online-child-sex-offenders-arrested-during-operation-broken-heart
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August 14th, 2018 at 6:23:07 PM permalink
petroglyph
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It's not just the Catholics: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbe8bp/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11
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August 14th, 2018 at 9:08:09 PM permalink
FrGamble
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I feel like crawling under a rock and dying.
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