Original Sin?
January 13th, 2019 at 3:35:06 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | I remember back when Hoffa was stealing pension money . I knew then that no man could be expected to stay honest when he could dip his hands into a 5 billion dollar cookie jar. Everybody has a price. And I don't believe priests are any different in that respect. I can't say what I would do if hot horny 19 year old women would come in and confess their desires, again and again? Probably the same for guys [priests] that secretly lust for young boys. Same thing fulfilling our deepest desires. Obviously the temptation is to much for some. Certainly more than the ones that get caught. The robe does not give them super powers, Neither does god. It would be safer all around if those that feel the need to confess did it in their own heads, or by mail or internet. The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
January 13th, 2019 at 4:06:02 PM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | Gosh it is tiring playing wack a mole with Bob alternate universe. After confession rightly became more private the biggest need was annoymity for the penitent. This gave the penitent and actually the priest a way to better protect the one confessing from being known. I actually prefer the confessional box because I don't have to worry about knowing or recognizing the person, it puts everyone at ease and I can just think of the person as just another beautiful soul God loves and forgives. Just always remember the source when Bob talks about the history of confession, or the history of anything really. Also in regards to priests going to confession, that has always and forever been the case. To withold the fact that you are a priest when confessing comes close to invalidating the Sacarament. It is important and every priest I know not only goes regularly to confession but always mentions they are a priest when going. Why would you not? That is pretty important. It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures. ( |
January 13th, 2019 at 4:18:10 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
I don't understand confession. I've never confessed anything to anybody, nor will I. My business is mine, I would never give somebody that power over me. I'm very good at keeping secrets, there's a certain power in it, keeping your own counsel. I find it interesting that on Youtube there are lots of videos by ex cops and lawyers who advise never talk to the police, never answer questions beyond name and address. They will use anything you say against you, no matter how friendly they seem. That's how I feel about confession, I certainly disagree that it's 'good for the soul'. Why would that be so. You admit weaknesses to another person, does that elevate you in their eyes? Hell no. The people that have confessed things to me over the years, it's always made me think less of them. Always. Why a person does that to themselves is a mystery to me. Are they masochistic? If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 13th, 2019 at 8:06:25 PM permalink | |
Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 | My favorite image of Jesus is the "laughing Jesus," but I must admit I don't know what he was laughing about. Any thoughts? Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
January 13th, 2019 at 10:13:25 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
The super white caucasian 6' tall mid European fantasy Jesus. In reality he was probably 5' 2", broad Jewish nose, bad teeth, who rarely smiled and never laughed. He was a traveling doomsday 'End is Near' preacher. His main theme was, better get your house in order, these are the end times, god is coming and the day of judgement will happen in this lifetime (2000 years ago). This was a common theme of preach for your supper traveling preachers. Jesus wanted to be taken seriously, there would have been no laughter. In fact the NT says Jesus got angry, or he wept, or felt pity. But not once does it say he laughed or even smiled. He had zero sense of humor. He was the orig Debbie Downer. This is what forensic archeologists think think he really looked like: If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 14th, 2019 at 6:44:27 AM permalink | |
aceofspades Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 83 Posts: 2019 |
About how he fooled everyone into thinking he was the son of "God" given birth to by a virgin |
January 14th, 2019 at 6:44:45 AM permalink | |
FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
That is a great image. There was obviously something different about Jesus that drew people to Him. In Mt. 11:19 Jesus talks about how John the Baptist was so different than Him. He mentions that while John was considered a stoic kind of cold guy and people complained about that, now Jesus is the life of the party and brings joy to people and He is called a drunkard and a glutton. Jesus is always going to dinners and parties with people and He preaches not that the Kingdom of God will come, but that it is here right now! In fact in Mk. 2:19, Jesus says how could we not party and rejoice. Why would anyone fast and not have fun at a wedding with the bridegroom present? Later in Jn. 15:11 Jesus preaches that His joy is in us and that He came to bring our joy to fulfillment. Yep, there is something special about Jesus, His person and His message, so much so that it literally changed the world. You don't do that without the enthusiasm, joy, and uplifting nature that this picture captures and surely Jesus had. It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures. ( |
January 14th, 2019 at 9:52:55 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
About how he fooled everyone into thinking he was the son of "God" given birth to by a virgin The Jesus in the pic is laughing because he pulled the long con on his followers and they fell for it. And continue to fall for the silver tongued preachers to this day, as they live in their mansions and drive their Bentley's.. You'll never fail appealing to the ego's of people who want to be worshiped by some god. That's what Xtionity really is, they don't worship god, they worship the fact that god thinks they're peachy keen and will give them whatever they want if they just ask for it. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 14th, 2019 at 10:05:02 AM permalink | |
aceofspades Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 83 Posts: 2019 |
January 15th, 2019 at 5:58:32 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | At 5pm I put a tenderloin in the countertop oven and set it for 40 min. I went about my business, hearing the timer tick, smelling the cooking roast at one point. I even looked inside once with a light to see how it was going. The timer went off, I grabbed the meat thermo and opened the door to.. a raw tenderloin. The oven was unplugged when I turned it on. I ignored a lack of orange running light, and no heat coming from it, even imagined I was smelling it. All because I started with a faulty premise and believed it was true. Now imagine you send a kid to an all Xtion school at 5 years old. He's pounded by the religions story day after day, even at home and on Sunday. If I can be fooled by wrong thinking for 40 min, that kid is fooled for life. He's so in the tank, so indoctrinated, he has zero chance of breaking away. Some do, but not many. And those that do have huge guilt issues. It's no accident that 85% of all priests had Catholic parents and went to Catholic schools. My bro in law is a Baptist minister and his parents raised him in a rabid Baptist home. He's very bright, but sounds like an idiot when he talks about his religion. We're so susceptible to suggestion,it's frightening. I thank Zeus every day my parents left my beliefs up to me. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |