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Original Sin?
| August 13th, 2019 at 1:43:34 PM permalink | |
| pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | Now that's an interesting subject. The idea that technology would get so powerful that it attains god like attributes. When will it go from science fiction to science fact? |
| August 13th, 2019 at 1:51:23 PM permalink | |
| aceofspades Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 83 Posts: 2019 |
Science fiction becomes science fact on an almost daily basis Just look at the progression made from Verne to Asimov to Gibson to present day |
| August 13th, 2019 at 1:53:54 PM permalink | |
| pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | I don't think that's circular reasoning. Saying the bible is true because the bible says the bible is true is an example of circular reasoning. "God" was, is and always will be" is merely a definition of God. |
| August 13th, 2019 at 1:59:46 PM permalink | |
| pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | Who is this Gibson of who you speak? |
| August 13th, 2019 at 2:05:26 PM permalink | |
| pew Member since: Jan 8, 2013 Threads: 4 Posts: 1232 | We haven't created the tech god quite yet, I think Google is pretty powerful but even they have way to go in that regard. |
| August 13th, 2019 at 4:17:58 PM permalink | |
| aceofspades Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 83 Posts: 2019 | |
| August 13th, 2019 at 4:43:12 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
I don't think you get it. God is not created, God is the creator. This is a necessary fact for anything to exist. It might help you to not use the name God because your false atheism won't allow you to see past this name we give to the required being or force of all that exists. It might also help to think of moments in time. Like Lego blocks they are built upon the one below it. Ultimately though there could be no present moment or top of these blocks without a foundation upon which everything rests and depends upon. Something not made of legos, something outside of time. To ask who created God is to express a complete misunderstanding of what God is. For there to be anything there must be something that grounds all that is, that is necessary and non-violent on anything else for it's existence. You cannot escape this truth even if you try to come up with fantastic ideas of multi-verses or the crazy claim of an eternally existing material universe. I hope you understand. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| August 13th, 2019 at 4:49:18 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | My only disagreement with pew here is that in regards to the existence of God human reason can get us there and it is worth discussing. I have given up trying to argue with Evenbob about Christianity because his mind is so poisoned against it and he wholeheartedly is content to believe lies about it. I can only point out where he is mistaken for the benefit of others. However, I do believe that anyone can reason to a sure belief in something supernatural that is the source of all existence. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| August 13th, 2019 at 4:57:34 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
The universe was, is, and always will be. Just leave god out of it and you're there. God isn't needed. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| August 13th, 2019 at 5:13:52 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
So the universe is your God? “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |