If Alaska voted to join Canada

Quote: AZDuffman

Difficult, but imagine the marketing to have your team name on them somehow. I knew they come from one place, a buddy who likes curling said he would love to own that concession. How many stones does a team need?

8 per team. 320 lbs. The handles are changeable. You could make those all marketable and advertisment based. The brooms and the shoes are consumables. There's your money line, if any. The rocks... there's about 150 at the local rink, and I suspect they've no need to buy another set for a few decades.

Quote: Face

Quote: AZDuffman

Correct, Canada has plenty of underpopulated, arctic areas. While AK has lots of mineral wealth, Canada has lots of that also. Even if the USA let AK go, Canada would not take it because defense of AK would be to get a bill for a few billion dollars.

Why is this?

If you look at a population map, Canada's population ends shortly after you go a third of the way north of its border with US. There's not really anything or anyone. Suddenly, even farther north, you have a resurgence of density in Alaska.

Why does Alaska have pop density when the same latitude, geography, and conditions in Canada exist right across the invisible line, and they have none?

90% of AK is mostly empty. But why has Canada not filled up, even in the areas that are not near-uninhabitable? I can make a few guesses:

First, the US Government has historically made deliberate policies to encourage settlement of more-thinly populated areas. This really got rolling post-1865 as the need to settle the plains and assimilate the Indians there became understood. Land was given under the Homestead Act in AK until IIRC the 1970s.

Next, in AK if you own the land you own the minerals underneath. The USA is unique in this regard. More than a few people go to AK to try and strike it rich in gold.

Moving along, more than a few Americans have moved to AK due to careers in the military, which is well represented because of the proximity of Russia (former USSR) being so close that Tina Fey can see it from her house.

Finally, Americans have more of a rich history of saying "screw this" and moving to an unpopulated area. Canadians don't seem to share this mentality to the same level.

Quote: TheCesspit

8 per team. 320 lbs. The handles are changeable. You could make those all marketable and advertisment based. The brooms and the shoes are consumables. There's your money line, if any. The rocks... there's about 150 at the local rink, and I suspect they've no need to buy another set for a few decades.

Did a quick look around, and there appears to be four places from the homeland that produce curling quality granite... one in Wales, and three in Scotland.

Not that this helps the eventual take over of Alaska by Canada. Maybe we'll start sending several hundred thousand ethnic Canadians into the the state....

Quote: Face

Why does Alaska have pop density when the same latitude, geography, and conditions in Canada exist right across the invisible line, and they have none?

I'm sure there are many factors, but the simplest one is probably the strongest (access to water).

The motivation for changing nations would probably also be simple. Canada gives more autonomy to their provinces than USA gives to their states.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tucker-carlson-calls-for-us-to-invade-canada-why-don-t-we-liberate-it/ar-AA16NZJJ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=54763a6120c84f95a53f951dd5e7f7ea

What do you think Kernaman?
You with Tucker??????

Quote: terapined

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/tucker-carlson-calls-for-us-to-invade-canada-why-don-t-we-liberate-it/ar-AA16NZJJ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=54763a6120c84f95a53f951dd5e7f7ea

What do you think Kernaman?
You with Tucker??????

You don't need to invade us just send a drone to take out Justin the way you do in other countries. Biden and his band of lefties though love Justin he is cut from the same cloth as them so it won't happen.

do you remember reading of 54-40 or fight? we should at least go for that again! If we had prevailed back then, it would be the NHL Vancouver Yanks, not Canucks

I think this is unrealistic for a couple reason, the primary one being Alaska would never want to join Canada (Alaska is very right leaning), and even the most "socialist" administration would pale compared to Canada. And, that is assuming Canada would want to annex Alaska. I think Alaska trying to become it's own nation would be more likely.

But, it is also unlikely that the United States would allow it. There has been a lot of federal investment into Alaska, and Alaska has a lot of strategic value (besides its economic resources). And Alaska would need approval to start the process.



Succession is settled case law; nonconsensual secession was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in the 1800s (with the exception of approval of the Federal government and agreements from States in the union). I don't understand all of the discussions that says it has never been adjudicated.


Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1868)
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/74/700/

"Primary Holding
States do not have the right to unilaterally secede from the United States, so the Confederate states during the Civil War always remained part of the nation."



So yes, a State can technically secede, but they need both permission from the Federal Government and no objections from any current State. (Which will never happen for State, especially Alaska.....)

I have been reading stuff suggesting the U.S. should buy Greenland from Denmark. Apparently Greenland has huge amounts of oil (more than Sudi Arabia from what I read) and other valuable resources buried under the ice. With any luck the ice will melt away from global warming and we can access those resources more freely.

Quote: DRich

I have been reading stuff suggesting the U.S. should buy Greenland from Denmark. Apparently Greenland has huge amounts of oil (more than Sudi Arabia from what I read) and other valuable resources buried under the ice. With any luck the ice will melt away from global warming and we can access those resources more freely.

If that's true
Why would Denmark sell ?