The EV of "God"

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March 27th, 2014 at 6:18:49 PM permalink
aceofspades
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Is a belief in God +EV or -EV ?
March 27th, 2014 at 7:03:21 PM permalink
Mosca
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1) Existence is an illusion.
2) Self determination is also an illusion.
3) We cannot know that which is outside of our perception.

Therefore, don't worry. Be happy.
March 27th, 2014 at 7:15:16 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: aceofspades
Is a belief in God +EV or -EV ?


It's negative, but most, and I mean the vast majority, of true believers will never find out. That is, you would realize your error only after you're dead. By then you can't realize anything anymore.

Or as some line of some novel had it "You'll be too dead to care." ("Wormwood"? I forget).
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March 27th, 2014 at 7:17:16 PM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: Nareed
It's negative, but most, and I mean the vast majority, of true believers will never find out. That is, you would realize your error only after you're dead. By then you can't realize anything anymore.

Or as some line of some novel had it "You'll be too dead to care." ("Wormwood"? I forget).


Exactly!


But I think for the believers, the actual Expected Value is far greater than the actual value they will receive - but they will not find out they are incorrect until afterwards...
March 27th, 2014 at 7:36:10 PM permalink
FrGamble
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This thread is begging for an explanation of Pascal's wager.
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March 27th, 2014 at 7:43:41 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: aceofspades
But I think for the believers, the actual Expected Value is far greater than the actual value they will receive - but they will not find out they are incorrect until afterwards...


The flip side is you and I won't find out we're right, either.

And if we're wrong, we'll never it live it down ;P
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March 27th, 2014 at 7:54:20 PM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: Nareed
The flip side is you and I won't find out we're right, either.

And if we're wrong, we'll never it live it down ;P




Ahh yes but if we are wrong, would not a loving God forgive us our trespasses?
March 27th, 2014 at 8:15:29 PM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: aceofspades
Ahh yes but if we are wrong, would not a loving God forgive us our trespasses?


I'll forego the obvious answer and say this instead: If it turns out I'm wrong, I give FrGamble permission to tell me "I told you so!" for one third of all eternity ;)
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March 28th, 2014 at 8:51:04 AM permalink
chickenman
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Quote: Nareed
I'll forego the obvious answer and say this instead: If it turns out I'm wrong, I give FrGamble permission to tell me "I told you so!" for one third of all eternity ;)
I suspect the Good Padre will be no where near you to cash in on this very generous offer :-)
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March 28th, 2014 at 9:36:42 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: chickenman
I suspect the Good Padre will be no where near you to cash in on this very generous offer :-)


You don't seem to have a very high opinion of FrGamble...
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