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April 22nd, 2014 at 5:56:51 PM permalink
Evenbob
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That was a good movie and you never see it
anywhere. I had forgotten all about it. I wonder
why its disappeared so completely.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 22nd, 2014 at 6:00:48 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Good god, you're joking. Why the hell not? The beer
aisle in most large stores here is a full aisle, and both
sides. Every beer under the sun, they sell tons of it.


No, not joking. I think there are 4 states like this. You have to go to a "beer distributor" and you have to buy a case. Except some bars have 6 pack licenses and you can only take 2 out. And the six-pack license used to be the only way to buy beer on a Sunday, since relaxed I think. Most are not really "stores" at all but distributors and industrial looking.

It gets better, all stuff harder than beer has to be bought at a "State Store" since officially renamed "Wine and Spirits Store" but I will always call it the former. Prices are not bad nor is selection and the clerks are actually pretty well trained, but it is 100% Soviet State-Owned System. Some wineries can sell their own brands in the winery and their own stores but that is very limited.
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April 22nd, 2014 at 6:04:42 PM permalink
rxwine
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I remember when I bought a case of Blatz beer for $4.

$3.50 worth of taste.
No one has ever proven I am not God.
April 22nd, 2014 at 6:09:05 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
No, not joking. I think there are 4 states like this. You have to go to a "beer distributor" and you have to buy a case. .


Holy crap, I had no idea. Half the gas station
quickie marts here sell beer and wine, some
have walk in coolers. Some sell hard liquor.
Any store that sells alcohol depends on it to
make their nut every month. How in gods
name are stores in PA making it without this
great advantage.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 22nd, 2014 at 6:13:04 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: rxwine
I remember when I bought a case of Blatz beer for $4.

$3.50 worth of taste.


In the late 60's and thru the 70's premium
beer's like Bud and Miller was $5 a case.
You can find it for $12 a case now in places,
which really isn't bad 40 year later.

IN has really cheap beer and liquor because
they hardly tax it. A $12 half gallon of vodka
here often costs $9 in Indiana. Worth it if
you happen to be there and buy 10 of them.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 22nd, 2014 at 6:21:23 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Holy crap, I had no idea. Half the gas station
quickie marts here sell beer and wine, some
have walk in coolers. Some sell hard liquor.
Any store that sells alcohol depends on it to
make their nut every month. How in gods
name are stores in PA making it without this
great advantage.


I suppose you just adapt. It probably will not change because the licenses for Beer Distributors are finite and can touch six figures. Decent beer distributors also sell pop and snacks but many do not. Bars have to buy from them and John Taffer who buys 50 kegs a month pays the same as you or I do across the sales counter. No volume discounts allowed.

My biggest gripe is the case rule. It means you try few exotic beers as you are stuck with a case of it like it or not.

Hard stuff I never minded being in its own store so much. i just think the state should not run them. Because of their wholesale purchases the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania buys more booze than any entity in the USA and probably on earth.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
April 22nd, 2014 at 6:32:56 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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I think the term in Pennsylvania used to be "Package Store"... the state didn't even want to call them "liquor stores".

Australians have a fondness for beer but one of the things many Australian tourists in the USA remark on is the absolute ubiquity of places to buy beer. Going to a gas station and buying beer is unheard of in Australia it seems. And it seems there are not only fewer vendors in Australia but they are never quite so conveniently located as any grocery store or any corner gas station or any delicatessen.

The biggest distributor in Vegas is Kim Lee and I believe he got into the business solely due to his difficulty in learning English. He once witnessed someone walking in, selecting his purchase, taking it to the clerk at the register, paying for it and having it bagged and handed to him without a word being uttered by anyone. Kim felt that was the job for him.
April 22nd, 2014 at 6:37:18 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
I suppose you just adapt. .


MI strictly regulates alcohol too, but they do
in a smarter way. Like PA, they want the taxes.
So they have min price you can sell liquor
at. You can sell for as high a price as you
like, but you can't go below the min. That
way the taxes are assured. Do you have
micro breweries that sell bottles on site?
Those are everywhere here, as are wineries.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
April 22nd, 2014 at 6:50:51 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Fleastiff
I think the term in Pennsylvania used to be "Package Store"... the state didn't even want to call them "liquor stores".


If they did it was before my time. "State Store" was used until the early 1990s, if you watch "Slap Shot" you can see one with a huge sign in one scene.

Quote: Evenbob
Do you have
micro breweries that sell bottles on site?
Those are everywhere here, as are wineries.


I have never seen such a micro-brewery here. Wineries a few, mostly in NW-PA near Erie.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
April 22nd, 2014 at 7:16:14 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman

I have never seen such a micro-brewery here. .


Micro's are a big deal. We have one called Founders,
that's rated the 3rd best in the country, and in the
top 10 in the world. I love beer but it's very fattening
if your over 40. Vodka is mostly what I drink now.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
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