Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

Except that these things seem to work when applied within human timescales, and seem to be in concordance in the past. What you're saying is the equivalent to "no, but we don't know that THIS guy is really human!"

What you fail to understand is that they are far more accurate than a few degrees Celcius. When you group observations together, you get results that are consistent and reduce error.

Put it this way:

How many dice am I throwing?

Results: 13, 9, 7, 9

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Now how, many dice am I throwing:

Results: 13, 9, 7, 9, 8, 7, 14, 9, 10, 14, 15, 12, 4, 8, 7, 9, 6, 12, 13, 11, 9, 5, 12, 10, 11, 16, 8, 13, 11, 12, 10, 13, 11, 15, 8, 9, 8, 15, 7, 11, 7, 8, 18, 9, 12, 7, 13, 14, 5, 8, 13, 11, 10, 8, 4, 14, 12, 7, 10, 10, 3, 11, 10, 8, 12, 11, 11, 8, 9, 9, 10, 15, 12, 11, 13, 10, 4, 9, 7, 9, 9, 5, 10, 17, 12, 7, 14, 14, 14, 10, 10, 7, 8, 8, 13, 10, 12, 14, 6, 3, 8, 12, 6, 13, 10, 4, 11, 12, 13, 14, 9, 14, 10, 14, 13, 10, 11, 9, 8, 9, 7, 15, 14, 7, 9, 6, 10, 12, 9, 13, 6, 11, 10, 10, 10, 14, 5, 13, 11, 9, 11, 9, 9, 8, 9, 11, 14, 9, 9, 12, 8, 10, 13, 16, 6, 8, 6, 12, 11, 13, 12, 13, 11, 12, 10, 13, 8, 8, 13, 13, 11, 7, 12, 6, 12, 15, 12, 9, 14, 11, 11, 14, 12, 9, 3, 10, 11, 9, 12, 13, 5, 9, 7, 12, 12, 7, 16, 10, 5, 15, 8, 9, 9, 5, 12, 13, 13, 14, 17, 14, 10, 14, 10, 13, 12, 7, 9, 10, 14, 13, 14, 8, 11, 15, 4, 9, 5, 17, 11, 10, 11, 12, 6, 12, 9, 9, 15, 13, 12, 8, 14, 9, 5, 12, 14, 13, 14, 13, 7

It's the power of statistics. What are the odds that I'm throwing 4 dice?

Quote: boymimbo

What you fail to understand is that they are far more accurate than a few degrees Celcius. When you group observations together, you get results that are consistent and return error.

Put it this way:

How many dice am I throwing?

Results: 13, 9, 7, 9

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Now how, many dice am I throwing:

Results: 13, 9, 7, 9, 8, 7, 14, 9, 10, 14, 15, 12, 4, 8, 7, 9, 6, 12, 13, 11, 9, 5, 12, 10, 11, 16, 8, 13, 11, 12, 10, 13, 11, 15, 8, 9, 8, 15, 7, 11, 7, 8, 18, 9, 12, 7, 13, 14, 5, 8, 13, 11, 10, 8, 4, 14, 12, 7, 10, 10, 3, 11, 10, 8, 12, 11, 11, 8, 9, 9, 10, 15, 12, 11, 13, 10, 4, 9, 7, 9, 9, 5, 10, 17, 12, 7, 14, 14, 14, 10, 10, 7, 8, 8, 13, 10, 12, 14, 6, 3, 8, 12, 6, 13, 10, 4, 11, 12, 13, 14, 9, 14, 10, 14, 13, 10, 11, 9, 8, 9, 7, 15, 14, 7, 9, 6, 10, 12, 9, 13, 6, 11, 10, 10, 10, 14, 5, 13, 11, 9, 11, 9, 9, 8, 9, 11, 14, 9, 9, 12, 8, 10, 13, 16, 6, 8, 6, 12, 11, 13, 12, 13, 11, 12, 10, 13, 8, 8, 13, 13, 11, 7, 12, 6, 12, 15, 12, 9, 14, 11, 11, 14, 12, 9, 3, 10, 11, 9, 12, 13, 5, 9, 7, 12, 12, 7, 16, 10, 5, 15, 8, 9, 9, 5, 12, 13, 13, 14, 17, 14, 10, 14, 10, 13, 12, 7, 9, 10, 14, 13, 14, 8, 11, 15, 4, 9, 5, 17, 11, 10, 11, 12, 6, 12, 9, 9, 15, 13, 12, 8, 14, 9, 5, 12, 14, 13, 14, 13, 7

It's the power of statistics. What are the odds that I'm throwing 4 dice?

I would say pretty close to zero as there is no event of 19 or higher that I can see after a day of looking at numbers at work. What does this have to do with estimating temperatures and that even 10,000 years is a meaningless time series in a 4.5 billion year old planet?

AGW deniers, like creationists with their wonky grip on probability, love to trot out those pointless comparisons of scale, but they mean absolutely nothing without some kind of context to demonstrate their relevance - in this case, some reason why our metrics' behavior over the last ten thousand years not only ought to differ significantly from their behavior before, but why they each ought to be affected in the same way.

(And no, boymimbo's post isn't an example, because the point there is clear - more measurements mean smaller error bars. Nor can your comparison be understood in light of this, since you're comparing populations, not measurements.)

Quote: 24Bingo

AGW deniers, like creationists with their wonky grip on probability, love to trot out those pointless comparisons of scale, but they mean absolutely nothing without some kind of context to demonstrate their relevance - in this case, some reason why our metrics' behavior over the last ten thousand years not only ought to differ significantly from their behavior before, but why they each ought to be affected in the same way.

Creationists? That reminds me of this statement...lol:

"Like a creationist digging up quotes from Darwin, you seek to impeach some god, of whom understanding, even understanding of the pursuit of understanding, is a horrible thing, so not giving a damn where he comes from or why he is what he is, you look for what "even" this god "admits," since surely these acolytes cannot attack such a proposition, since surely these creatures of whom understanding is anathema could only be brainwashed acolytes. So, satisfied, you stand and fling feces."

Algore holds a global warming rally.

No wonder the cold snap this week.

Quote: AZDuffman

Algore holds a global warming rally

After 20+ years, that nickname from Rush still never fails to crack me up. :D

Satellite images show summer ice cap is thicker...despite Al Gore's prediction it would be ICE-FREE by now

...yet the Warmers keeping on propagating the pseudo-science of global warming. *facepalm*

Obama's threatening to sign executive orders this
week because GW.

Quote: Evenbob

Obama's threatening to sign executive orders this
week because GW.

Just more proof what a scam it is.