Climate Change -- conspiracy theory or is it time we all drive a Prius?

April 8th, 2021 at 1:10:47 PM permalink
JimRockford
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Would it make you feel better if they were pushed out of windows?

Archie Bunker!
I knew I had heard it somewhere.
The mind hungers for that on which it feeds.
April 8th, 2021 at 1:44:08 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Archie Bunker!
I knew I had heard it somewhere.


Hard to improve on it!
The President is a fink.
April 14th, 2021 at 2:37:57 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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April 14th, 2021 at 4:10:32 AM permalink
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Major News Outlets Pledge to Begin Calling ‘Climate Change’ a ‘Climate Emergency’

Because we saw thru "Global Warming" and "Climate Change." The sheep believers will just think things got worse all of the sudden.
The President is a fink.
May 8th, 2021 at 9:14:36 AM permalink
rxwine
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In North America, lumber is typically traded in units of 1,000 board feet; builders need about 15,000 board feet, on average, to construct a single-family home. From 2015 to 2019, lumber traded at $381 for 1,000 board feet, according to Fastmarkets. This month, it reached an all-time high of $1,104 for the same amount. The lumber shortage has added at least $24,000 to the cost of a new home, according to the National Association of Homebuilders.


Climate change is not the only issue here.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
May 8th, 2021 at 2:56:48 PM permalink
Tanko
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..."The lumber shortage has added at least $24,000 to the cost of a new home, according to the National Association of Homebuilders.."


That is due chiefly to the 58,950 wildfires that burned more than 10,000,000 acres last year. A lot of those trees were meant to be turned into 2x4's. The total lumber supply is down 20% this year.

This report says the lumber shortage added $36,000 to the cost of building a new home.
May 8th, 2021 at 3:45:47 PM permalink
kenarman
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That is due chiefly to the 58,950 wildfires that burned more than 10,000,000 acres last year. A lot of those trees were meant to be turned into 2x4's. The total lumber supply is down 20% this year.

This report says the lumber shortage added $36,000 to the cost of building a new home.


The article you linked to says nothing about wildfires. That is just spin put on by the sheeples that believe in global warming. Historically the US has imported much of it's lumber from Canada. The US producers are unable to compete with the Canadian producers. They lobbied for and got a 21% tariff put on Canadian lumber, the tariff was cut back to 9% in December but Canada has picked up other markets and can't supply the volume the US needs. That and the huge demand for housing means prices are through the roof.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin
May 9th, 2021 at 4:34:39 AM permalink
Tanko
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The article you linked to says nothing about wildfires. .... The US producers are unable to compete with the Canadian producers. They lobbied for and got a 21% tariff put on Canadian lumber,


Trump imposed that 21% tariff in 2017, because the Canadian government was promoting unfair competition by allowing timber to be harvested cheaply on government owned land.

Despite the tariff, lumber prices at the end of 2019, were the same as they were at the end of 2013.

Lumber prices in 2020 remained at early 2017 levels, until July 2020, when costs began rising sharply. Chiefly due to the reduction in supply caused by the pandemic, and wild fires that burned an area twice the size of New Jersey and destroyed 15 billion board feet of timber.
May 9th, 2021 at 4:56:31 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Trump imposed that 21% tariff in 2017, because the Canadian government was promoting unfair competition by allowing timber to be harvested cheaply on government owned land.

Despite the tariff, lumber prices at the end of 2019, were the same as they were at the end of 2013.

Lumber prices in 2020 remained at early 2017 levels, until July 2020, when costs began rising sharply. Chiefly due to the reduction in supply caused by the pandemic, and wild fires that burned an area twice the size of New Jersey and destroyed 15 billion board feet of timber.


The fires are not the reason unless you can show there was lots of logging on those lands. They burned because of a lack of logging amongst other bad forestry practices, thank liberals for those.

It is about the china virus disrupting the supply lines. About the stop-start of the economy last year. Just like the chip shortage and disruption in the auto industry. All man-made. And why some of us last year said we had to get to work to get the economy going but we got scored for saying such.
The President is a fink.
May 9th, 2021 at 7:25:45 AM permalink
kenarman
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Trump imposed that 21% tariff in 2017, because the Canadian government was promoting unfair competition by allowing timber to be harvested cheaply on government owned land.

Despite the tariff, lumber prices at the end of 2019, were the same as they were at the end of 2013.

Lumber prices in 2020 remained at early 2017 levels, until July 2020, when costs began rising sharply. Chiefly due to the reduction in supply caused by the pandemic, and wild fires that burned an area twice the size of New Jersey and destroyed 15 billion board feet of timber.


The problem has been around at lot longer than Trump.

"he Canada–U.S. softwood lumber dispute is one of the largest and most enduring trade disputes between both nations.[1] This conflict arose in 1982 and its effects are still seen today. British Columbia, the major Canadian exporter of softwood lumber to the United States, was most affected, reporting losses of 9,494 direct and indirect jobs between 2004 and 2009.[2]

The Tariffs have caused the industry to shrink significantly and the Canadian mills aren't around anymore to make up the shortfall when your demand jumps.
Most of the timber is grown on government land but the Provincial governments charge very significant "stumpage fees" for the wood. The World Trade Organization has sided with Canada every time the dispute gets there. The US just ignores the rulings. The real problem is the same as the auto industry had when they lost control of their industry, the failure to make the investment required in automation to make the mills efficient enough to compete. Cheaper to lobby the government to impose tariffs. Canadian mills are some of the most efficient in the world.
"but if you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." Benjamin Franklin