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Quote: Gandler

Any evidence?

You seem to like making blanket insinuations about gay men being predatory.

Just articles about former staff
that said they felt preyed upon
in the restrooms and at social
events. Demands were made
on them to do things or lose
their jobs. I have no idea if all
Gay men are predatory, do you
have evidence.

Quote: Evenbob

Just articles about former staff
that said they felt preyed upon
in the restrooms and at social
events. Demands were made
on them to do things or lose
their jobs. I have no idea if all
Gay men are predatory, do you
have evidence.

I have evidence that they are not.

Its simple: that vast majority of gay men don't have sexual misconduct allegations against them....

Quote: Mission146

I think you need to understand how to write in a way that is not dogmatic. If you do understand it already, which is quite likely, then I would suggest that you might do well to actually apply that understanding.

No, you need to understand having a discussion on a forum is not the same as writing a term paper in a post-graduate level class. I have said it here before, a sign of intelligence and mental maturity is being able to talk and understand generalities. The intelligent people I know are able to do this. The ones who try to find some exception are "that guy."

Quote: Gandler

I have evidence that they are not.

Its simple: that vast majority of gay men don't have sexual misconduct allegations against them....

Meaningless.

Quote: AZDuffman

I have said it here before, a sign of intelligence and mental maturity is being able to talk and understand generalities. The intelligent people I know are able to do this.

Like when I say Gay men can
be predatory and somebody
pipes up immediately and says:
'Oh yeah? Well so can STRAIGHT
men!" No kidding, who said they
weren't. Doesn't make what I
stated any less true. I knew lots
of Gay guys in Calif and they
talked and joked about being
predators constantly. Every day.

Quote: ams288

As for Ellen, I’ve read lots of stories about how she’s one of the meanest people in Hollywood. Of course, it’s just gossip so I can’t be sure it’s true.

I thought she was okay with that description as I can’t recall her defending herself.

But I thought it was mostly to be standoffish, and keep the public out of assuming she was always a moment away from offering them a nice chat based on her talk show format.

Quote: Evenbob

Like when I say Gay men can
be predatory and somebody
pipes up immediately and says:
'Oh yeah? Well so can STRAIGHT
men!" No kidding, who said they
weren't. Doesn't make what I
stated any less true. I knew lots
of Gay guys in Calif and they
talked and joked about being
predators constantly. Every day.

It seems like a culture where you get street cred for turning younger folks out. We have seen the predatory behavior of gay priests and BSA leaders. Not everyone can work around kids so it is not a stretch to think on a show like "Ellen" where they feel untouchable there will be predatory behavior. There they know they will be defended.

She’s going to be at fault anyway. Her name is at the top of the marque. She may have let people run the business end without paying attention, but she still has to answer fo it.

And if she was directly doing stuff — well. That will come out soon enough.

Quote: rxwine

She’s going to be at fault anyway.

One thing she does that grates
on me is she likes scaring people.
I mean really scaring them. Who
does stuff like that. Sneaks up
behind staff and guests, has
staff popping out of the center
divider where she interviews people.
If she wasn't who she was, she would
get sued for everything she has.
Try a stunt like that with and I'd
flatten all her tires.

Quote: rxwine

She’s going to be at fault anyway. Her name is at the top of the marque. She may have let people run the business end without paying attention, but she still has to answer fo it.

And if she was directly doing stuff — well. That will come out soon enough.

I think it will come down to:

1. She hates people in general so handed off dealing with underlings
2. Because of this the underlings went wild


In the past few years the dirty little secrets of the entertainment industry have come out. It might not be all that out of the ordinary, but what is "ordinary" in this industry?