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Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 | Quote: AZDuffman No, you need to understand having a discussion on a forum is not the same as writing a term paper in a post-graduate level class. I have said it here before, a sign of intelligence and mental maturity is being able to talk and understand generalities. The intelligent people I know are able to do this. The ones who try to find some exception are "that guy."
Any general intelligence test you want. Prepare for an ass-kicking. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
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Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 | If I get suspended for that, so be it. If I have not properly conveyed why at least a minimal degree of nuance is necessary in order to have a meaningful conversation in the last nearly ten years, then I should just accept failure. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
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Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4236 | Quote: AZDuffman It seems like a culture where you get street cred for turning younger folks out. We have seen the predatory behavior of gay priests and BSA leaders. Not everyone can work around kids so it is not a stretch to think on a show like "Ellen" where they feel untouchable there will be predatory behavior. There they know they will be defended.
You quote two organizations where being gay was prohibited (at the time), and where most misconduct was carried out by straight married men (in the case of BSA)..... |
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Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4236 | Quote: Evenbob Like when I say Gay men can be predatory and somebody pipes up immediately and says: 'Oh yeah? Well so can STRAIGHT men!" No kidding, who said they weren't. Doesn't make what I stated any less true. I knew lots of Gay guys in Calif and they talked and joked about being predators constantly. Every day.
No, you worded it in a way to imply that gay men were more likely to be predatory: Quote: Evenbob I've read she has lots of Gay men working for her and some of them were very predatory on the people under them. Who would have thought, lol. |
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Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25010 | Quote: Gandler No, you worded it in a way to imply that gay men were more likely to be predatory:
No it's not, that's what you wanted to see. You are the corrector of every wrong so you constantly see things that aren't there. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
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rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18631 | Quote: Mission146 If I get suspended for that, so be it.
If I have not properly conveyed why at least a minimal degree of nuance is necessary in order to have a meaningful conversation in the last nearly ten years, then I should just accept failure.
He’s like a really strong conservative. He doesn’t do much nuance. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
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Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4236 | Quote: Evenbob No it's not, that's what you wanted to see. You are the corrector of every wrong so you constantly see things that aren't there.
No, you have long generalized and bashed gay men for being "obsessed" with sex more than straight men... And, insuate that they like sex with minors more than straight men.... This is from the "Gay Thread," 15AUG2019 Quote: Evenbob
The best way to describe it is, as a group they were obsessed with sex. You might see that here and there with a guy, but you never see it in a group of straight men. It was a lot of fun joking with them about it, there was always a lot of laughing and pretty good jokes. But just below that was an air of creepiness that was undeniable.
Also from 2019: Quote: Evenbob
I've only said this 400 times in the last 10 years. I owned a bar in Santa Barbara that had a Gay bar in the same block 5 doors away. Always got a big overflow crowd from them, looking for young straight guys they could turn. At lunch time I had 2 wealthy Gay business owners come in almost every day.
They were a riot with their stories about being officers in the AF in the 50's. They used their rank to coerce the young men into just about anything they wanted.
The both had sports cars in their garage they would let the teens drive who were living with them that week or month. I wonder what happened to them, I wonder if the weathered the AIDS years.
18AUG2019: Quote: Evenbob
It's odd when I think about it now. In the almost 4 years I had the bar it never occurred to me that the older Gay guys might get caught with minors. They were very open about it and we all knew, they joked about it constantly. Times were different then, there was no PC. If a kid wanted to go with the Gay guy, that was his business.
This is how it worked. The older guys had parties every weekend and the young guys who came regularly got friends from school to come too. They were told they didn't have to do anything and lots of free coke and booze.
Once these young guys were high on drugs and half drunk they could be talked into almost anything. They would talk the kids into letting themselves be given BJ's, that was the big thrill for the older Gays. Not getting, but giving. Giving a straight 16 year old a BJ was what they lived for.
I find it appalling now, but then I didn't. It was just an everyday thing. Like drunk driving. I drove home impaired almost every night and thought nothing of it. They didn't do all that much if you got caught. MADD changed all that and that's when I got out of the business.
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AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18136 | Quote: Gandler You quote two organizations where being gay was prohibited (at the time), and where most misconduct was carried out by straight married men (in the case of BSA).....
They might have been married. But it the went for males they were gay by definition. The President is a fink. |
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terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11786 | Quote: Gandler No, you have long generalized and bashed gay men for being "obsessed" with sex more than straight men... And, insuate that they like sex with minors more than straight men....
This is from the "Gay Thread," 15AUG2019
Also from 2019:
18AUG2019:
News for you There are 2 EB's There is the EB that hates Ozark and the other EB that now loves Ozark Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
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Gandler Member since: Aug 15, 2019 Threads: 27 Posts: 4236 | Quote: AZDuffman They might have been married. But it the went for males they were gay by definition.
"the quality or characteristic of being sexually attracted solely to people of one's own sex." At most they were bisexual or else they would not be attracted to their (former? now probably) wives.... Or more likely, just predators who took advantage of the situation? .... |