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August 18th, 2017 at 1:50:48 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 |
Where are the statues of Benedict Arnold, George III, Lord Cornwallis, John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinkley, Admiral Yamamoto, Heinrich Himmler, Adolf Hitler, Tokyo Rose, Benito Mussolini, Kaiser Will, and other enemies and traitors like Lee, Jackson, Davies, et. al? Do you want history to be forgotten? BTW, using commonly found timelines of when most monuments to the Confederacy were erected, it should be permissible for Germany to erect statues to Hitler, Mengele, Himmler, etc. by 2005. Apparently they've chosen not to do this. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
August 18th, 2017 at 3:01:27 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18136 |
Never heard a conservative say that. Now, if everyone in the military both sides got one you might have more of a point. That does not happen. Not even everyone on the winning side gets a monument. The President is a fink. |
August 18th, 2017 at 5:53:14 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18632 |
Well, they say trophy. Union winners. Confederacy losers. So why does the losing side get a trophy. You can quibble that a statue in a park is not a trophy. in fact, it's more than a trophy. Better. So losers don't deserve it. In the sense that everyone gets a trophy even if you lose? Sure everyone gets a grave stone --- but more than that is beyond normal recognition. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
August 18th, 2017 at 6:22:33 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18136 |
Everyone didn't get a trophy, just some generals who had a good career and made a valiant effort against long odds. By this are you saying tear down the Vietnam Memorial since we lost? Seems that is what you are saying. The President is a fink. |
August 18th, 2017 at 6:41:33 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18632 |
As soon as Vietnam runs the US government the winners can tear it down. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
August 18th, 2017 at 6:56:41 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | Sharpton and BLM want to tear down the Jefferson memorial. The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |
August 18th, 2017 at 7:27:25 PM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 188 Posts: 18632 |
I wouldn't do it based on the balance of what Jefferson contributed to the countries foundation against anything else. However, I would argue that almost everyone has been conditioned most of their life how to think about certain historical figures. Some are literally presented as inviolable even though all had flaws of varying degrees. We have trouble breaking with the psychological conditioning we had since birth about some of these figures. The argument against Jefferson has validity though. You can't argue against some facts that weigh against him. (well you can, if you argue against facts) Personally, I think the arguments for keeping Jefferson are much better than General Lee. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
August 19th, 2017 at 7:34:06 AM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 | "Steve Bannon declares 'Trump presidency is over' " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/18/steve-bannon-donald-trumps-chief-white-house-strategist-mutual/ So nothing changed due to his ouster. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
August 19th, 2017 at 7:58:48 AM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | These recent stories show that Bannon saw and used Trump as a tool in his own personal agenda. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
August 19th, 2017 at 8:37:36 AM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11786 | The NY stock exchange cheered on the news of Bannon being fired. That's telling Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |