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Quote: JimRockford

Here is where there is general agreement in both studies:
1. West Antarctica ice is melting at an accelerating rate due to global warming.
2. East Antarctica ice is steadily increasing from a mechanism that began 10,000 years ago that brings massive amounts on moisture to the region that falls as snow.

The disagreement is about #2. Neither study refutes global warming in any way. Rush, Dredge an Alex Jones just spun it that way. There was no flip-flop, just a disagreement about the rate of a mechanism that began when we emerged from the ice age.

Quote: kenarman

Completely wrong Jim I was not following anybody's spin. Did you not notice my original post was in quotes. It is directly from the NASA site dated October 30, 2015. It was not from a 3rd party site. It is easy to find but here is the link.

LINK

Quote: AZDuffman

1. I think there is a 60% chance the AFC will win the Super Bowl.
2. I think there is a 40% chance the NFC will win the Super Bowl.

Will I be wrong?

Quote: Wizard

No, because the odds can't be quantified exactly.

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U.S. Returns Stolen 500-Year-Old Christopher Columbus Letter to the Vatican. U.S. Ambassador Callista Gingrich has presented a 500-year-old document, written by Christopher Columbus, to the Vatican library. Following his 1492 expedition, Columbus wrote to his sponsors, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain. He praised the fertile land and described natives who were ripe for conversion to Christianity. The letter was immediately translated into Latin and reprinted in Rome. The Vatican got a copy, and held it in their library for safe keeping. Or so they thought.

Quote: JimRockford

Quote: kenarman

Completely wrong Jim I was not following anybody's spin. Did you not notice my original post was in quotes. It is directly from the NASA site dated October 30, 2015. It was not from a 3rd party site. It is easy to find but here is the link.

LINK

Yes I have read that page and I saw that you quoted from it. My summary does not contradict anything from your source. I stand by my statement.

Edit: Maybe my summary was a little unclear. Mechanism #1 (melting ice) is driven by global warming. Mechanism #2 (increasing ice) has nothing to do with global warming. All the 2015 study said was #2 added more ice than #1 lost. Other studies place a lower value on ice gained #2.

Edit b: I find it hard to think on east and west Antarctica. If you're standing on the South Pole, which way is east?

Quote: Evenbob

There is no getting around the
fact that Betfair had Hillary at
88% chance to win. That's not
even in the ballpark. I'm thinking
they probably had it closer to
100% behind closed doors.

Quote: kenarman

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This is the most robust study of the ice mass balance of Antarctica to date,” said assessment team co-lead Erik Ivins at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL)

Quote: Wizard

No, because the odds can't be quantified exactly. If you broke it down as 99% and 1%, then I wouldn't call you "wrong," but I would certainly try to take advantage with a bet.