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June 27th, 2018 at 12:37:59 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Dalex64
They should probably delay any vote for at least 6 months. You know, to let the next congress decide.


Or just delay it till 2021 when Trump
might be out of office. No, wait.
Delay it till 2025 when Trump will
be gone for sure, that's the ticket.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 27th, 2018 at 12:44:31 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Dalex64
They should probably delay any vote for at least 6 months. You know, to let the next congress decide.


Why would they do that? Trump is empowered to call congress to session which might be a good idea. Do it in August. Should only take 2 weeks. Then they would be ready to go in October.
The President is a fink.
June 27th, 2018 at 12:45:27 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Or just delay it till 2021 when Trump
might be out of office. No, wait.
Delay it till 2025 when Trump will
be gone for sure, that's the ticket.


Wait until Ginsberg leaves. A few may have strokes.
The President is a fink.
June 27th, 2018 at 12:48:18 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Quote: AZDuffman
Why would they do that? Trump is empowered to call congress to session which might be a good idea. Do it in August. Should only take 2 weeks. Then they would be ready to go in October.


Why would the do that? I don't know, why would congress decide not to vote on a supreme court nomination from a president when the president has less than a year left on his term?

Shouldn't they also not vote on a nomination when many of them have less than a year remaining on their terms?
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June 27th, 2018 at 12:54:55 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
Wait until Ginsberg leaves. A few may have strokes.


Thomas will leave before the old
bat. The only way she's leaving is
in a pine box..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 27th, 2018 at 2:11:31 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Chris Matthews is almost having a stroke
on MS over Kennedy. He's talking so fast,
almost yelling, he looks like he's having
a breakdown. My god, they're all talking
and yelling at once! It's a glorious day..
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
June 27th, 2018 at 4:46:54 PM permalink
Dalex64
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I'm sure we'll hear whining about a simple majority for confirmation.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
June 27th, 2018 at 5:00:07 PM permalink
Dalex64
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Hah, I'm too slow.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/26/donald-trump-kill-the-filibuster-677151

I was thinking about it when the Kennedy news broke, but waited before posting.

In the meantime, Trump is trying to scare the republicans into removing the filibuster, before the Democrats do when they take power in November. Seriously, he said to remove it in case the Democrats take over and do it. That's a serious lack of confidence.

McConnel has already reiterated that the filibuster is here to stay.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/06/27/mitch-mcconnell-filibuster-trump-678817

Unlike Trump it seems McConnel can consider future consequences, while Trump is now looking like he is trying to cement what little legacy he can assemble by seriously considering the possibility that the republicans will lose power.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan
June 27th, 2018 at 5:54:23 PM permalink
beachbumbabs
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Quote: Evenbob
Justice Kennedy Retiring; Trump Gets 2nd Supreme Court Pick


"Anthony Kennedy has developed a reputation as a moderate liberal on the bench, often siding with four liberal Justices."

Time for that to change..


Bo

No, he really hasn't that reputation. He rules on the Constitutionality more strictly than most. Sometimes that goes one way, sometimes another. But he's a Republican and Conservative by temperment. John Roberts seems to be doing that, too.

That's what an honest justice looks like, Liberal or Conservative. Not like Gorsuch, coordinating his decisions with the WH. Or Thomas, sleeping through oral argumenta and almost never writing an opinion. Neither one is doing his job as a primary actor in an equally empowered branch of the government.

And The Notorious RBG is a force to be reckoned with. You're right, I think she leaves feet first. But hopefully not for many years.
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June 27th, 2018 at 6:32:41 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: beachbumbabs
No, he really hasn't that reputation.


But yes, he really does. He was the
crucial swing voter:

"Kennedy cast the deciding vote that found a constitutional right for same-sex couples to marry. He determined how far government may intrude on a woman’s right to an abortion; whether attempts to curtail the corrupting influence of campaign contributions violated free speech; and how and when it is appropriate for government to exercise affirmative action. His decisions shielded juveniles and the intellectually disabled from the death penalty. He found that those seized in the fight against terrorism had rights in U.S. courts. And that is only a partial list of the issues on which he was key. Democrats and liberals, who thought of him as the best they could hope for, begged him to stay." Wash Post


"It's almost impossible to calculate the impact Kennedy's retirement will have on the court and the country.
While Kennedy was a Republican appointee, he was viewed skeptically by many conservatives. Kennedy wrote the ruling that legalized same-sex marriage nationwide in 2015. He voted in favor of granting habeas corpus rights to Guantanamo detainees in 2008. He opposed the execution of underage criminals on constitutional grounds in 2005. And in 1993, he upheld Roe v. Wade." CNN
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.