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January 11th, 2019 at 5:34:19 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: petroglyph
She is a decoy. She has no power and won't have any.

Is there anyone of means, that actually thinks she is relevant ?


I don't really buy that
Lots of media exposure is a power in itself
Its like EF Hutton, she speaks, people listen. That's power
She is one of the most recognizable members of congress, that's pretty incredible considering she's been a member for like 5 min :-)
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January 11th, 2019 at 5:43:59 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: terapined
I don't really buy that
Lots of media exposure is a power in itself
Its like EF Hutton, she speaks, people listen. That's power
She is one of the most recognizable members of congress, that's pretty incredible considering she's been a member for like 5 min :-)


"Lieberman, a former vice presidential candidate who ran with Democrat Al Gore in the 2000 election, talked about Ocasio-Cortez and her progressive ideas, including up to a 70 percent tax rate on the nation's wealthiest to fund a green energy plan, in an interview on Fox Business on Thursday. "

Do you think the people that actually are in power, are going to give her the reigns when she suggests raising their taxes to 70%?

The kind of people like Adelson that can give Trump a hundred million dollars for his campaign, don't like that kind of talk.

The CEO's of the big banks, pharma, defense, don't like that kind of talk. And they don't forget.
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW
January 11th, 2019 at 5:48:39 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Even Whoopi says, "quit pooping on people" https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/01/07/whoopi_goldberg_to_ocasio-cortez_stop_pooping_on_people_sit_still_for_a_minute_and_learn_the_job.html

Politics is dirty business, and no one likes getting their throats cut. She is against pros. In a world where Hillary gets to run for president, lose, and still be as powerful as she is in the Dem party, there are certain ethics rules, even for the unethical.
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW
January 11th, 2019 at 5:51:22 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: petroglyph
including up to a 70 percent tax rate on the nation's wealthiest


Cortex keeps saying tax rates were
that high before Reagan. True, but
there were so many loopholes and
so many deductions that a good
tax man could have you paying
almost nothing. What she is
proposing is a flat 70%, no deductions.
If you live in NY, with high state
taxes, you would get to keep
17% of the money you earn.
Socialism 101.

She keeps running her mouth and
it will end badly for her.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
January 11th, 2019 at 6:09:23 PM permalink
rxwine
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Ironically rightwing media is probably helping her more than hurting her. At least I see no evidence that they're doing anything but raising her profile. If you're really far left getting attacked by rightwing media is just a badge of relevance. Bernie was really the only high profile socialist, until now.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
January 11th, 2019 at 6:16:35 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: rxwine
Ironically rightwing media is probably helping her more than hurting her.


What all the media is doing is creating
an entertaining empty headed monster.
I love her, she's good to look at and
hilarious to listen to and has as much
real power as a fruit fly. Like Rush
always says, the Dems are never more
hilarious than when they're in power.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
January 11th, 2019 at 6:21:52 PM permalink
terapined
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Quote: petroglyph
"Lieberman, a former vice presidential candidate who ran with Democrat Al Gore in the 2000 election, talked about Ocasio-Cortez and her progressive ideas, including up to a 70 percent tax rate on the nation's wealthiest to fund a green energy plan, in an interview on Fox Business on Thursday. "

Do you think the people that actually are in power, are going to give her the reigns when she suggests raising their taxes to 70%?

The kind of people like Adelson that can give Trump a hundred million dollars for his campaign, don't like that kind of talk.

The CEO's of the big banks, pharma, defense, don't like that kind of talk. And they don't forget.


Its the power of the bully pulpit
Say Kathy Castor makes a public statemen on an issue. Its totally ignored. She represents my district by the way
AOC speaks, people listen. That in itself is a form of power

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January 11th, 2019 at 7:43:12 PM permalink
petroglyph
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Quote: terapined
Its the power of the bully pulpit
Say Kathy Castor makes a public statemen on an issue. Its totally ignored. She represents my district by the way
AOC speaks, people listen. That in itself is a form of power


True story: I used to raise pigs, 2-3 at a time. Nice digs for them after a few years, poured concrete slab for them, gave them showers once per week, they were cared for.

Inside their pen which was cyclone fenced I installed an electric wire, so they didn't challenge the fence. But electric fences aren't on constantly, [I've heard people say they think animals can smell the electricity, IDK]. The way my pigs would check to see if the fence was on is, they would shove one of their friends into it. If the fence cycled and the porker shoved into got hit, he would screech. Fun to watch, pigs are smart.

That's how I think it will work with freshman congresspersons. Her fellow party people will shove her into the fence, to see if it is hot.

Now if I was a Jason Bourne type, I could travel incognito travelling close to her, because all eyes will be on her. jmo
The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW
January 11th, 2019 at 7:54:11 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: petroglyph


That's how I think it will work with freshman congresspersons. Her fellow party people will shove her into the fence, to see if it is hot.


They'll shove her into her place and
she'll balk at it because she's not
very bright. She won't be a team
player and he fan base will always
be egging her on to do things to'
keep her on the news. She will be
a pariah to her fellow Dems and
they'll avoid her and work against
her. They don't like dummy rebels
in congress, they make everybody
look bad.

Because she's attractive, the other
women will especially resent her.
All fun to watch.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
January 12th, 2019 at 2:51:40 AM permalink
Fleastiff
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cruise ship returns to port Canaveral with over 500 norovirus victims who will get refunds, but i'm sure lawyers and public relations types are already hard at work to blame some unkwown passenger rather than the ship's lettuce, etc.

, no matter where claimants live or bought tickets, only venue for suits is Miami