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July 13th, 2019 at 7:08:43 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: aceofspades
Padre - if you were raised in isolation, you would never know of "God" - if you were raised in a home where every day you worshipped a can of tuna, then you would believe that can of tuna was "God" - it is all indoctrination


I disagree. Reason and truth will free you from falsehoods even if you had been indoctrinated. Eventually the truth will win out that there is a God who is not a can of tuna.
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July 13th, 2019 at 7:24:47 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: FrGamble
I disagree. Reason and truth will free you from falsehoods even if you had been indoctrinated. Eventually the truth will win out that there is a God who is not a can of tuna.


How do you KNOW "God" is not a can of tuna - isn't "God" everything that is, was and ever will be?
July 13th, 2019 at 8:08:53 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: aceofspades
How do you KNOW "God" is not a can of tuna - isn't "God" everything that is, was and ever will be?


God is the cause and reason for everything that is. By definition could not be contained in anything materially contingent nor could be contained even in everything that exists, God is above and beyond it all, therefore is not a can of tuna, sorry.
“It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” (
July 13th, 2019 at 8:14:12 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: FrGamble
God is the cause and reason for everything that is. By definition could not be contained in anything materially contingent nor could be contained even in everything that exists, God is above and beyond it all, therefore is not a can of tuna, sorry.


Are you questioning "God's" ability to be a can of tuna?
July 13th, 2019 at 8:30:20 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Yes, but more I'm saying it is impossible like a square circle or a rock too heavy for God to lift.
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July 13th, 2019 at 8:41:08 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: FrGamble
Yes, but more I'm saying it is impossible like a square circle or a rock too heavy for God to lift.


I thought that, through "God", everything was possible?
July 13th, 2019 at 9:50:57 AM permalink
FrGamble
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If by everything you mean even the illogical then you are incorrect.
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July 13th, 2019 at 10:24:55 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
I think if you read Kamen you would see the many sources and evidence he uses


My response is in the Simple Question
thread where it belongs.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 13th, 2019 at 11:15:12 AM permalink
FrGamble
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Thank you Bob, I reckon the forum thanks you as well.
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July 13th, 2019 at 11:53:42 AM permalink
aceofspades
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Quote: FrGamble
If by everything you mean even the illogical then you are incorrect.


So, "God" must obey the laws of physics?