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December 8th, 2017 at 3:03:45 PM permalink
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I think the baker had an obligation, as a licensed city/county/state business, to sell their product to anyone who comes with payment otherwise accepted. If he refused to sell them anything at all, it would be analogous to denying blacks service at lunch counters in the 50s. Clearly discriminatory.

I also think the baker has a right to refuse to customize a cake in a way they find personally offensive.

If the customer buys a basic product and customized it themselves, so be it. I doubt I would decorate a cake with f-bombs, genitalia, or gory plane crashes, but I have seen all 3. None appeared to be professionally decorated, but at least two started as commercial goods. I wouldn't have expected any bakery to provide those touches.

I do wonder what signage or advertising they had out there, though. Anything that said something like "we will customize or personalize any cake just the way you want it" would set them up for misleading customers, and perhaps provide a window of fault.
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February 7th, 2018 at 9:44:51 AM permalink
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Interesting case out of Bakersfield CA
A baker did not want to bake a cake for a gay couple celebrating their wedding
A judge ruled in favor of the baker
The gay couple just wanted a cake. No gay decoration, no words. Just a cake
The baker refused
The judge said if the couple asked for a cake already baked, the baker could not refuse
But if the couple asks the baker to bake a cake, the baker can refuse

If you are asking for a cake with no special decoration, its none of the bakers business what you are celebrating
Whats next
Bakers have the right to question customers on what they are celebrating that are just buying a plain cake
Customers buying a plain cake should have the right to say its none of your business to a nosy baker
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
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