What time zone is Jackpot Nevada in?

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July 7th, 2014 at 2:02:20 PM permalink
Wizard
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Quote: Evenbob
Don't some in Vegas want to go on DT
so people who drive in from Calif have
an extra hour to gamble? I know I read
it somewhere.


I'm not sure I get this post, but downtown Las Vegas is further away from California than the Strip. I think that is why the Strip casinos are closer to California, to grab impatient gamblers from California. Also note now the center of gravity of the Strip has drifted south over time, not north.
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July 7th, 2014 at 2:25:08 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Wizard
I'm not sure I get this post, .


If it's 11am instead of noon in Vegas when
you drive in from Calif, you have an extra
hour to gamble before you have to go back
later that day. They don't really have an
extra hour, but people will stay longer because
they think they do.

Also there's this:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/nov/16/switching-time-zones-bright-idea-nevada/
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July 7th, 2014 at 4:08:14 PM permalink
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July 7th, 2014 at 6:42:36 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Wizard
I'm not sure I get this post,


I think EvenBob meant to type MT for Mountain Time, but typed DT instead.

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Think about operational requirements. A train that goes 18.95 mi with a top speed of 268 mph and an average speed of 156 mph doesn't make sense when you write it down. The expense of building such a system is an Order of Magnitude higher than any possible benefit to the traveler. The people of Shanghai would benefit far more from a system that averaged 60 mph and terminated at a transit hub . It is an idea with absolutely no business validity.

But I could not get anyone to let me leave that in the wikipedia article until I found that quote from the German executive that Siemens knew it made no economic sense when they built it, but they considered it a billion dollar advertisement.

It would drive me crazy in San Diego to think that they were proposing to build a 100 mile Maglev Train to go to a relocated airport in the desert. Half the people that go to the San Diego airport are trying to pay $130 round trip for a 80-90 minute flight to OAK, SFO, SAC, LAS, PHX, or SJC. Most people are anxious to spend less than $30 to get to the airport (by shuttle, cab, friend, off-airport parking, etc).

You can't build a billion dollar system to get them to the airport. If it costs $100-$150 round trip per person to get to the airport, people won't fly (unless they are going to Europe or East Coast). The scale of the project is off by an Order of Magnitude.
July 7th, 2014 at 7:56:51 PM permalink
Face
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I think DT as opposed to DST
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July 7th, 2014 at 9:25:38 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Wizard
I'd be happy to try to find compromise text. I think my wording already is a good compromise, but Famartin does nothing but revert to his original wording. How does one start the process to settle such disagreements?


Help Mike out with his obsession. If different people undo Famartin's changes then we can report him for undoing text three or more times. Just keep saying that he needs to build concensus, and post something on the TALK page.
July 7th, 2014 at 9:27:31 PM permalink
Evenbob
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His obsession might be catching, I can't take the chance.
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July 7th, 2014 at 9:46:30 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Evenbob
His obsession might be catching, I can't take the chance.


Federal register notice
Thursday, October 21, 1999 Relocation of Standard Time Zone Boundary in the State of Nevada for Wendover
July 8th, 2014 at 12:20:11 AM permalink
Wizard
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It looks like there were quite a few changes between Paco, Famartin, and toohool since I lance updated the page. Not just on the time zone but other stuff as well about Jackpot.

Regarding the time zone, Famartin (correct me if I'm wrong) changed it to:

Quote: toolhool
Jackpot, along with the rest of Nevada except for the city of West Wendover, is legally in the Pacific Time Zone,[6] but, along with other Idaho border towns such as Jarbidge, Mountain City and Owyhee, unofficially observes Mountain Time,[7][8] due to its economic ties with the Magic Valley region of southern Idaho. The Nevada Department of Transportation and Federal Aviation Administration recognize this local unofficial observance.[9][10]


While it isn't how I would put it, I think is a reasonable compromise and I'm not planning to edit that wording.

I'd be interested to hear what other stuff Paco changed and what Famartin changed back.
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July 8th, 2014 at 4:40:04 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Wizard
I'd be interested to hear what other stuff Paco changed and what Famartin changed back.


I didn't change anything else. BTW Famartin is reading this thread as well.

He pointed out to me (on my Talk page) that the Federal Register notice that I posted about West Wendover in 1999, used the term "unofficial".


Quote: Federal Register

Finding

We find that, based on the Mayor's petition, testimony presented at the hearing and the comment filed in the docket, there is good cause to place West Wendover, Nevada in the Mountain Time Zone. The change is effective at 2:00 a.m. PDT, Sunday, October 31, 1999. Because the community is already unofficially observing Mountain time, we find good cause to make this rule effective on less than 30 days notice.



But back to Wizard's original question. How can a time zone be unofficially observed? According to the USCode below it is basically illegal to ignore the Time Zone as determined by the Secretary of Transportation.

Quote: U.S. Code § 262 - Duty to observe standard time of zones

Within the respective zones created under the authority of sections 261 to 264 of this title the standard time of the zone shall insofar as practicable (as determined by the Secretary of Transportation) govern the movement of all common carriers engaged in interstate or foreign commerce. In all statutes, orders, rules, and regulations relating to the time of performance of any act by any officer or department of the United States, whether in the legislative, executive, or judicial branches of the Government, or relating to the time within which any rights shall accrue or determine, or within which any act shall or shall not be performed by any person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, it shall be understood and intended that the time shall insofar as practicable (as determined by the Secretary of Transportation) be the United States standard time of the zone within which the act is to be performed.
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