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November 15th, 2015 at 9:28:50 PM permalink
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Emirates announced it will fly the longest commercial flight in the world: Dubai-Panama City.
November 16th, 2015 at 12:47:05 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Emirates announced it will fly the longest commercial flight in the world: Dubai-Panama City.


This flight will be conducted with a Boeing Worldliner. Emirates acquired ten of these planes from 31. Aug 2007 to 30. Mar 2009 . They are capable of very long ranges, but are not that large of a plane. They are among the least number of seats in Emirates fleet of over 200 widebodies (8 first, 42 business, 216 economy =266 seats). Only 38 of Emirates 224 widebodies has fewer than 300 seats.

I think to send a large plane (like an A380) to Latin America it would be better to make a technical stop in Europe and sell 5th freedom tickets. Emirates has always had designs on the Transatlantic routes between Europe and North America.

Air France is introducing A380 flights (3 days per week) between Paris (Charles de Gaulle CDG) and Mexico City in just over 8 weeks. The map illustrates a potential competitive flight from Dubai. A nonstop from Dubai to Mexico City would be the new longest flight in the world (but still less then the now discontinued nonstops from Singapore to Los Angeles and New York City).



The Dubai to Panama City is only a few kilometers longer than the current commerical record distance holder (Sydney to DFW on an A380). Qantas plans to put a Dreamliner from Perth to London. Finally Singapore Air will restore the SIN to EWR (Newark) route that it abandoned two years ago. The route was formerly flown with the A350-500 which was developed about about 12 years ago. The new route will be flown in 2018 with the newly redesigned A350-900ULR.


November 16th, 2015 at 7:15:05 AM permalink
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To Paris on an A380, of course. For example

Pasajeros 1 Adulto Su cesta 856,70 USD


That kind of Spanish would earn the Wizard too many push-ups :)

Literal translation: Passengers 1 Adult His basket 856,70 USD

Who ever heard of decimal comma?
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November 16th, 2015 at 8:25:07 AM permalink
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That kind of Spanish would earn the Wizard too many push-ups :)


I copied and pasted from the Air France website. They use the decimal comma in parts of Europe.

When I lived in Mexico, I see a lot of examples of historic connections to French culture. Some buildings, especially museums and art centers. I understand that Porfirio Diaz was a Francophile, and he retired in Paris after being overthrown.

Now you see that a lot in the USA. Probably the most famous influence was Pierre Charles L'Enfant bornAugust 2, 1754, who emigrated to USA at the age of 23 to fight in the American Revolution. He was a civil engineer and was chosen to design the new capital, in which he emulated Paris.
The Height of Buildings Act of 1910 restricted the heights of any type of building in the United States capital city of Washington, D.C., to be no higher than to 130 feet, or the width of the right-of-way of the street or avenue on which a building fronts, whichever is shorter.

It is like Paris, is on a more human scale and the new construction does not conflict in glory with the older city.

In Paris since 1977, soon after the construction of the 689 foot tall Tour Montparnasse, there has been a height limit of 121 feet on all new buildings. (The Eiffel Tower, at 1,063 feet, is by far the tallest structure in the city.)

The City Council's made a decision 2010 for the 13th arrondissement, in southeast Paris, where apartment buildings as tall as 150 feet and office buildings up to 590 feet will now be allowed. The 13th arrondissement has large number of immigrants with 1 out 4 people born outside of Metropolitan France, and significant numbers of former French settlers, such as pieds-noirs in Northwest Africa, followed by former colonial citizens who had French citizenship at birth (such as was often the case for the native elite in French colonies. The new height restrictions have not really resulted in any buildings.

December 12th, 2015 at 7:53:05 PM permalink
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Stories about the end of the Jumbo jet are circulating.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-days-of-the-jumbo-jet-are-coming-to-an-end-heres-a-look-back-at-its-glory-years-2015-12?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+clusterstock+%28ClusterStock%29





James Hogan, the chief executive of Emirates' rival Etihad and the creator of "The Residence" was unequivocal when asked if the group will buy another four-engined jet. "No, we're done,"Hogan said. "We just believe in two-engine technology — they are much more efficient." Etihad has taken delivery of 5 of the 10 planes they ordered.

While 12 of the 24 A380s produced this year went to Emirates, the airline announced that they would be taking delivery of 20 A380s next year. That should bring them to the 90 deliveries with the Engine Alliance jet. While Emirates made a program saving order of 50 additional jets with the Rolls Royce engine, I am not sure what Airbus would do if they cancelled that order for A380s and re-instated their now cancelled order for 70 A350s. Emirates is too valuable a customer to take to court. In that case the A380 program would probably end after next year.

British Airways will probably take delivery of the final 2 planes they ordered, but Air France seems to want out of their final 2 orders. They each ordered 12 and had 10 delivered. Lufthansa has had 14 planes delivered and has no more on order. The other order in Europe will probably never materialize.
December 13th, 2015 at 7:14:21 AM permalink
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And this is why AF will begin flying the A380 to MEX:

http://airwaysnews.com/blog/2015/12/08/air-france-to-retire-its-boeing-747-400s-next-january/

Clearly there's more demand for this route than can be met with only the 777.

The last scheduled commercial flight for AF's 747 will be MEX-CDG.
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December 13th, 2015 at 8:41:42 AM permalink
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The last scheduled commercial flight for AF's 747 will be MEX-CDG.


Air France flies the A380 from Paris to Abidjan and Johannesburg in Africa; Los Angeles, Miami, New York, and Washington in USA; Hong Kong and Shanghai in China; and in January Mexico City.

Even the French are Having Second Thoughts about A380 published on October 31, 2013 state that "published reports today indicate that Air France, which has 12 A380s on order and already taken delivery of 9, is having second thoughts about the last two, and may want to exchange them for other aircraft types."

But with fuel lower than ever, they may relent and still take delivery of the final two airframes. Presumably they would fly to the home airport of their Delta alliance partner, Atlanta.

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The first flight of the A350 in the USA (at JFK)resulted in a spectacular failure as the plane's computer decelerated the craft from 100 mph to zero in 15 seconds because they detected that the plane was running out of runway. The plane was on it's way to Qatar and it was full of journalists and executives. No one was hurt, just shook up.

After a nearly two-hour delay, (and more than a few drinks for the passengers) the Qatar Airways Airbus 350 did takeoff and fly to Doha.The Airbus 350 is set to begin service on from the U.S. on Qatar Airways on Jan. 1, 2016.
December 14th, 2015 at 6:53:53 AM permalink
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Stories about the end of the Jumbo jet are circulating.


Boeing is having difficulties selling the 747-8. No US based airlines have any on order, and the last remaining earlier 747 versions in operation with Delta are being phased out.

The two trend envisioned in the heyday of commercial aviation in the late 60s are finally dead: no BIG planes, no supersonic planes.

Now, long-haul aircraft are still twin aisle, even if they've gotten smaller (though this can be deceptive; the 777 is rather big). Mid haul planes are getting bigger, but not too big (ie, 180-220 passengers or so), and are flying longer routes.

The problem with the latter is that there's no room on a single aisle plane to move about, or a place to gather. To the back of an A-320, you may take one or two steps past the lavatories and into the galley. That's all there is. For flights of 4-6 hours, that's a long, long time to remain seated.

What is needed, desperately, is a twin aisle narrow body jet.

Which we'll never get.
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December 15th, 2015 at 3:23:25 AM permalink
Pacomartin
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Now, long-haul aircraft are still twin aisle, even if they've gotten smaller (though this can be deceptive; the 777 is rather big).


The B777-300ER which is now the mainstay of world airlines for long range flights is 24% smaller than the B747-8i in terms of cabin square footage. but the B747-8i weighs 41% more.

I am still waiting for Emirates to discontinue it's last order for 50 A380s with the Rolls Royce Engine and substitute an equivalent dollar amount of A350s. Rolls Royce makes the only engine for the A350 so they will get the same amount of money. Then they will just kill the A380 program after next year.

Emirates made the order for 50 additional planes with the RR engines two years ago to save the program, but if Airbus is not going to follow through with a new engine option for 2020, then Emirates may want to join the bandwagon. Emirates had ordered General Alliance engines for the first 90 aircraft (70 delivered so far).
December 15th, 2015 at 6:59:16 PM permalink
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The B777-300ER which is now the mainstay of world airlines for long range flights is 24% smaller than the B747-8i in terms of cabin square footage. but the B747-8i weighs 41% more.


At a rough guess I'd think it's like a 747 without the upper deck. It seems about right as volume grows faster than surface.

What do you think of a double aisle on a narrow body? It would increase size and weight for no gain in passenger capacity. However, it would dramatically increase passenger comfort, giving more room to move about and places to hang out (even without a dedicated lounge).

Now, this would be excessive on flights between 1-3 hours long. But very necessary in flights of 4-7 hours. Several airlines fly narrow bodies on such routes (including the last 757s on transatlantic routes). Try staying seated 5 hours.

Ultimately the manufacturers make the planes airlines are willing to buy. I don't think the airlines will be interested in this.

But perhaps after enough complaining and a lawsuit or two....
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