Pope Francis

Quote: FrGamble

First of all sex is not dirty or filthy, it is a beautiful gift meant to increase the love of spouses and conceive and raise children.

I can see where the early church considered sex a gift,,,to them.

Sex is an opportunity.

Quote: petroglyph

I can see where the early church considered sex a gift,,,to them.
Sex is an opportunity.

OMG, you nailed it. Sex is an opportunity to
control, which is what religion is all about.
All organized religion is about controlling
the flock. And what better tool to use than
sex.

Here's just a tiny part of the immense
list of people born out of wedlock,
the result of casual sex, 'fornication',
that FrG would have deprived the
world of just so his silly god would
be happy they didn't have sex out
of marriage.

Leonardo da Vinci
Alexander Hamilton
Lawrence of Arabia
Eva Peron
William the Conqueror
Lucrezia Borgia ( illegitimate daughter of a pope}
Jenny Lind
Billy Holiday
Marilyn Monroe
Steve Jobs

Quote: Evenbob

Here's just a tiny part of the immense
list of people born out of wedlock,
the result of casual sex, 'fornication',
that FrG would have deprived the
world of just so his silly god would
be happy they didn't have sex out
of marriage.

It would appear, that were the xtian god real, that he is a sadist that created mammalian sex drive with hormones that rage through human bodies to keep the species continuing, only to put rules, parameters and controls on when the "authority" deems it proper to do so?

And then excuse themselves from playing by the rules that the church would set upon everyone else.

There has always been some sob, trying to set himself up at the head of the table.

Quote: Evenbob

Here's just a tiny part of the immense
list of people born out of wedlock,
the result of casual sex, 'fornication',
that FrG would have deprived the
world of just so his silly god would
be happy they didn't have sex out
of marriage.

Leonardo da Vinci
Alexander Hamilton
Lawrence of Arabia
Eva Peron
William the Conqueror
Lucrezia Borgia ( illegitimate daughter of a pope}
Jenny Lind
Billy Holiday
Marilyn Monroe
Steve Jobs

I completely support this pro-life post from Evenbob. He seems to have confused me with someone who is pro-abortion.

Quote: petroglyph

It would appear, that were the xtian god real, that he is a sadist that created mammalian sex drive with hormones that rage through human bodies to keep the species continuing, only to put rules, parameters and controls on when the "authority" deems it proper to do so?

Wow, could you imagine if God didn't put rules, parameters, and give us an authority to challenge our animal nature. We are so much beyond and above animals it is somewhat ridiculous of you to make this argument. Do you think that it is always sadist to control our drives? What about our appetite? If I really like twinkies is it sadist for someone to tell me I shouldn't eat them for breakfast lunch and dinner? What about rage? Why should I control myself when I am angry, it would apparently be sadist for someone to try to calm me down and put away the gun.

Quote: FrGamble

I completely support this pro-life post from Evenbob.

It's pro casual sex list, sex outside
of marriage that you abhor so
much and is sooooo sinful and such
a mortal insult to your god. Has
not a thing to do with abortion.

Without casual sex couplings we
would have missed countless very
important people and their offsprings
offspring. Your silly religion should
really think these things thrrough
before they condemn something
as a 'sin'.

Just think, no DaVinci, no Sistine Chapel
ceiling, just because his parents 'sinned'.
He was the product of 'sin', how could
he possibly have been who he became.

Surely you see how terribly wrong and
hurtful your awful religion is.

Quote: FrGamble

Wow, could you imagine if God didn't put rules, parameters.

Not hard to imagine because it's
what's happening now. It's your
god that's imaginary, not the
rules. Man made the rules and
we choose to follow them or not.

Those of us that can think for
ourselves, that is.

Quote: FrGamble

Wow, could you imagine if God didn't put rules, parameters, and give us an authority to challenge our animal nature.

Yeah, no problem.

There have been thousands of gods thousands. And they all had some story, not unlike yours, with similar goals. Can you imagine a few thousand years ago adrift at sea in the dark in a hurricane, how hard the men prayed for Poseidon to save them?

Can you imagine if a knowledgeable adult told young girls how reproduction works, the utility of sex, and made it clear that the man was probably not going to help in any way after coitus?

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We are so much beyond and above animals it is somewhat ridiculous of you to make this argument.

It is a helpful and revealing way to understand why people are how they are. Assigning them some kind of mythical god created spirit, is revealing also.

Quote: Evenbob

He was the product of 'sin', how could
he possibly have been who he became.

Surely you see how terribly wrong and
hurtful your awful religion is.

You view of Catholicism and Christianity continues to frighten me. You really think I or any Catholic would condemn someone who was born out of wedlock and look at them as inferior or sinful in some way? How could you be so misguided and confused? Let me be clear: Catholicism teaches that every human being no matter how they were conceived is of infinite dignity and worth. It is really the people on this forum who support abortion you should be asking your question to. Everyone of them would have probably been aborted now a days.