Pope Francis

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December 8th, 2016 at 5:32:44 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
Yet FrG will come here and say they lovvvve
Gays, god loves Gays, they're welcomed
with open arms by the Church. As long as
they don't have Gay sex, or act Gay. If they
do they will be barred from the priesthood.


Big deal, straight males take a vow of chastity as well. Why should someone get special treatment because they choose a gay lifestyle?
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December 8th, 2016 at 5:36:12 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Big deal, straight males take a vow of chastity as well. Why should someone get special treatment because they choose a gay lifestyle?


But the pope says they can't be priests
if they're Gay, even if they don't have
sex. That's discrimination at it's finest.
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December 8th, 2016 at 8:52:26 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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LGBTQI people


This Acronym is now 6 letters! Is that everything now?
December 8th, 2016 at 11:11:08 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob
But the pope says they can't be priests
if they're Gay, even if they don't have
sex. That's discrimination at it's finest.


That is not at all what he is saying.
December 9th, 2016 at 12:45:32 AM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: FrGamble
That is not at all what he is saying.


So what does this mean then:

Men who "present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or support the so-called gay culture" are ineligible for the Catholic priesthood.

Sounds like you don't have to be
having Gay sex to be shut out,
any Gay tendencies will get you
banned. 'Deep-seated' is a joke,
if you're Gay there is no middle
ground. Just like for straight men,
deep-seated has no meaning.

I support the Gay culture, does that
make me ineligible to be a priest?
I'm as straight as you can get. The
Vatican is showing their Victorian
way of thinking by doubling down
on their bigoted discrimination.
At a time when they desperately need
new priests.
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December 9th, 2016 at 4:04:56 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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That's what would be worth doing, apology or no apology.
You forget that the apology is an act of political appeasement and will be no stronger than necessary and will be accompanied by no more meaningful action as is politically necessary. Vatican press agents have lots of stronger press releases and lots of weaker press releases all ready to go but as always will wait to see which way the winds blow.

Its sort of like the police chief in Casablanca who agreed that presently the winds blow from Vichy. Its a statement that implies submission to the current state but no belief whatsoever as to its legitimacy or permanence.
December 9th, 2016 at 4:11:46 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Quote: Pacomartin
This Acronym is now 6 letters! Is that everything now?
Heck, I had doubt as to what a QI was but now realize its not QI but Q space I and stands for Queer and Intersex. However I thought G for Gay covered Queer and also covered Lesbians, so who knows: I imagine acronyms are changeable.

Sort of like that minority group that goes around complaining society won't accept their view that anorexia nervosa is not a disease but an ideal body type, much to be desired and constitutes a Constitutionally Protected Right which should allow them to be free advertising showing normal body form women.
December 9th, 2016 at 4:20:35 PM permalink
Nareed
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This Acronym is now 6 letters! Is that everything now?


I don't keep track.
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December 9th, 2016 at 7:15:14 PM permalink
FrGamble
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Quote: Evenbob

Sounds like you don't have to be
having Gay sex to be shut out,
any Gay tendencies will get you
banned.


Not at all. It might be best understood as how do you identify yourself. If you consider yourself a gay seminarian that would be an issue. If you were a seminarian who also happened to be gay then that is not a problem.

Quote:
I support the Gay culture, does that
make me ineligible to be a priest?



What do you mean by "gay culture"? Supporting and loving homosexual men and women is not a problem, in fact it is a requirement to be a priest.
December 9th, 2016 at 7:26:28 PM permalink
Evenbob
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What do you mean by "gay culture"? .


What does the pope mean by 'Gay culture.'
He used the phrase, I just repeated it.
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