Pot Legalized
November 7th, 2012 at 1:57:20 PM permalink | |
ewjones Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 6 Posts: 32 | In high school I was under the impression weed hurts your memory, cognition, general intelligence. And long term, not just while you're high. But once I got to college I met a lot of really smart people that were doing really well in classes and frequently got high. So maybe it doesn't hurt that much. I've smoked a few times and never liked it. I felt stupid while I was high. So I'm sure I would have no interest in doing it. But it should be legalized, while the tax on alcohol should be higher.. If I went out to the bar and could either smoke a joint for $20 bucks, or have two beers for the same price, I'll choose the joint. |
November 7th, 2012 at 2:26:59 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 | The point is the government shouldn't be the guardian of what people do or don't do with their body and their health. Not to mention the inconsistency in allowing alcohol and tobacco to be legal, when they produce many of the adverse effects of drugs that are illegal. At most the government's proper role should be confined to defining how the influence of mind-altering substances, including alcohol, should legally be considered in both day-to-day activities (like driving) and in criminal situations (both by perpetrators and victims). For example, should being drunk or high justify or aggravate the comission of a crime? Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
November 7th, 2012 at 4:02:51 PM permalink | |
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 |
In 2010 Gov Schwarzenegger signed a bill similar to what you're arguing for. It's a step in the right direction, but unless weed is sold legally by licensed retailers, Schwarzenegger's plan still allows a black market to exist. And as long as there is a black market for dope, there will be Mexican drug gangs to profit from it. The Mexican drug cartels earn about $2 billion from the marijuana trade. By comparison, Mexico's gangs earn about $2.4 billion from cocaine. To my knowledge the Mexican drug lords do not sell alcohol in the U.S. (although perhaps they sell cigarettes in states with outlandishly high tobacco taxes), so if pot was completely legal in all 50 U.S. states, it could deprive $2 billion in revenue from these criminals. |
November 7th, 2012 at 8:58:34 PM permalink | |
MonkeyMonkey Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 0 Posts: 111 |
I think that depends of whether they force the rest of us to pay for the healthcare of others with mandated health insurance premiums. World's most discriminating Kool-Aid connoisseur |
November 8th, 2012 at 8:29:14 AM permalink | |
RonC Member since: Nov 7, 2012 Threads: 8 Posts: 2452 |
Everyone says that there is no one trying to create a nanny state...but you hit the nail on the head... You tell me I have to pay for the healthcare of others (no need to mention we already do pay for some), then I have the right to demand they take care of themselves the way I think they should. Don't fall down on the slope; it is slippery!! |
November 8th, 2012 at 8:44:04 AM permalink | |
FarFromVegas Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 3 Posts: 121 |
The uninsured use the emergency rooms and what they can't pay gets passed on in higher costs to everyone. You are already paying for the health care of the uninsured through higher costs. Making them buy insurance or pay a penalty (just like with car insurance) will help bring the costs down. Making insurance companies actually use the money they collect to pay for health care and not bonuses is also a good thing. This space for rent |
November 8th, 2012 at 10:03:57 AM permalink | |
Bigfoot66 Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1 Posts: 16 |
This is what Hayek called The Road to Serfdom. One regulation has unintended consequences, so people demand another regulation to clean up the mess from the first, which results in yet more unintended consequences, and the cycle continues until you live in a world where every area of life is very heavily regulated. The answer is not more government force, but less. |
November 8th, 2012 at 10:29:41 AM permalink | |
rdw4potus Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 10 Posts: 147 |
So it's like this: I'm not wearing any pants, film at 11 |
November 8th, 2012 at 11:34:23 AM permalink | |
TheCesspit Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 1929 | Regular chiropratic care is needed? That's as much snake oil as the pharma list before hand :) It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die.... it's called Life |
November 8th, 2012 at 2:10:52 PM permalink | |
MonkeyMonkey Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 0 Posts: 111 |
I've bolded the part that I think needs the most addressing, and italicized the "group" you're referring to. So, who is this "them" that will now be forced to pay for health insurance instead of using the emergency room as their health insurance "plan"? Is it any of them folks listed in the following quote?
The argument that the many (all?) of the same people that are currently abusing the system will be exempt from the new system and thus not helping out as you've indicated is so obvious I won't insult you or waste your time making it, just read who's exempt, it's all right there. Source: http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/how-much-is-the-obamacare-tax/ World's most discriminating Kool-Aid connoisseur |