Pot Legalized
March 2nd, 2017 at 11:28:17 AM permalink | |
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 |
In Utah, 9% of adults smoke. (State tax per pack: $1.70) In California, 11% of adults smoke. (State tax per pack: $2.87) In Missouri, 22% of adults smoke. (State tax per pack: 17 cents.) Surely there's a correlation between taxes & consumption. So the balancing act is to tax it high enough to reduce consumption, and simultaneously low enough to discourage a black market. |
March 2nd, 2017 at 11:29:56 AM permalink | |
rainman Member since: Feb 10, 2017 Threads: 0 Posts: 7 |
I always chuckle when I here proponents of alcohol bash pot. Damaged caused by alcohol to one's family, to one's own physical health, and to society far out way the damage of pot. |
March 2nd, 2017 at 12:05:25 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18203 |
What I have noticed is not so much people quitting but they do not smoke as much. Anyone grew up in the 70s or 80s knew of someone who smoked 2 packs a day. Not so much anymore. But I rarely meet people who had quit totally due to the price. At my last job a woman spent $450 a month on smokes for her and her daughter. I didn't even tell her that was the payment on the car she wanted to buy. Why bother there? The President is a fink. |
March 2nd, 2017 at 2:21:44 PM permalink | |
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 |
I agree. Addicts aren't especially sensitive to price. You know who is sensitive to price? Teenagers. And most teenagers can't afford a pack-a-day habit if the price is $6/pack. |
March 2nd, 2017 at 2:30:53 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18203 |
What I don't get with the under-30s is this Vape thing. They love it. Two stores in my neighborhood. The President is a fink. |
March 2nd, 2017 at 3:22:29 PM permalink | |
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 |
Compared to traditional tobacco cigarettes, the odor from e-cig vaping doesn't stink up your clothing/furniture/car as much, it doesn't stain your teeth, it's cheaper ($1,387 vs $2,569 annually), and it's probably at least a little less dangerous to your long-term health. (Kind of a low bar to claim that it's less dangerous; most things are less dangerous than cigarettes.) |
March 2nd, 2017 at 3:57:19 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
We had one store, went out of biz in 4 months. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
May 20th, 2017 at 9:58:33 AM permalink | |
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 | The Canadians are studying whether marijuana can be used to wean addicts off crack cocaine.
Is this a good idea or a bad idea? Are chronic pot users less damaging to society than crack cocaine addicts? |
May 20th, 2017 at 11:21:00 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18203 |
Seems like the high would be way different, crack being a stimulant pot more depressive. In the end pot users probably easier to handle as more zoned out. The President is a fink. |
May 20th, 2017 at 1:02:59 PM permalink | |
petroglyph Member since: Aug 3, 2014 Threads: 25 Posts: 6227 | MJ can definitely be a medicine with many uses. Just according to the stat givin in the quote, it appears that there is benefit from the cannabis. In some ways using mj like ibuprofen to help reduce the pain from weaning off narcotics can be very helpful, but in this case the reduction of crack use from 35 to 20% might be at least partially attributed to the fact that the users actually want to stop using their DOC? I have believed several times that almost anything around cocaine is often self healing. I have watched coke run it's course with people and witnessed people try it, like it, goe balls deep on a binge with it, and then figure it out. That stuff is a great high. I wish it didn't have all the side effects, but like all narcotics, it do. At the very least, users will suffer risk of economic ruin. Some of the best data on your question will come from the addicts themselves, or a twelve step program. I have read where many think it is just swapping one drug for another, but I don't believe that at all. Opiods are different than "go fast" drugs IMO. I think the dependency on speed is more mental, and the dependence on opiods is more physical. That stuff eats a person clear to the cellular level. MJ can be a miracle, or not. As far as risking a bunch of the population running around on MJ, we already are exposed. WJC and RR both quoted 20% of the population is using drugs on a daily basis. I don't believe that number includes all the prescription drugs, even minutely. The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury. GW |