Pot Legalized

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March 2nd, 2017 at 11:28:17 AM permalink
reno
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Quote: reno
But illegal tobacco sales only exist in states with excessive taxation.


In Utah, 9% of adults smoke. (State tax per pack: $1.70)
In California, 11% of adults smoke. (State tax per pack: $2.87)
In Missouri, 22% of adults smoke. (State tax per pack: 17 cents.)

Surely there's a correlation between taxes & consumption. So the balancing act is to tax it high enough to reduce consumption, and simultaneously low enough to discourage a black market.
March 2nd, 2017 at 11:29:56 AM permalink
rainman
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Quote: zippyboy
You drink a helluva lot more than I smoke, EB.


I always chuckle when I here proponents of alcohol bash pot.
Damaged caused by alcohol to one's family, to one's own physical health, and
to society far out way the damage of pot.
March 2nd, 2017 at 12:05:25 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: reno
In Utah, 9% of adults smoke. (State tax per pack: $1.70)
In California, 11% of adults smoke. (State tax per pack: $2.87)
In Missouri, 22% of adults smoke. (State tax per pack: 17 cents.)

Surely there's a correlation between taxes & consumption. So the balancing act is to tax it high enough to reduce consumption, and simultaneously low enough to discourage a black market.


What I have noticed is not so much people quitting but they do not smoke as much. Anyone grew up in the 70s or 80s knew of someone who smoked 2 packs a day. Not so much anymore. But I rarely meet people who had quit totally due to the price.

At my last job a woman spent $450 a month on smokes for her and her daughter. I didn't even tell her that was the payment on the car she wanted to buy. Why bother there?
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
March 2nd, 2017 at 2:21:44 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: AZDuffman
I rarely meet people who had quit totally due to the price.


I agree. Addicts aren't especially sensitive to price.

You know who is sensitive to price? Teenagers. And most teenagers can't afford a pack-a-day habit if the price is $6/pack.
March 2nd, 2017 at 2:30:53 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: reno


You know who is sensitive to price? Teenagers. And most teenagers can't afford a pack-a-day habit if the price is $6/pack.


What I don't get with the under-30s is this Vape thing. They love it. Two stores in my neighborhood.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
March 2nd, 2017 at 3:22:29 PM permalink
reno
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Quote: AZDuffman
What I don't get with the under-30s is this Vape thing. They love it. Two stores in my neighborhood.


Compared to traditional tobacco cigarettes, the odor from e-cig vaping doesn't stink up your clothing/furniture/car as much, it doesn't stain your teeth, it's cheaper ($1,387 vs $2,569 annually), and it's probably at least a little less dangerous to your long-term health. (Kind of a low bar to claim that it's less dangerous; most things are less dangerous than cigarettes.)
March 2nd, 2017 at 3:57:19 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: AZDuffman
What I don't get with the under-30s is this Vape thing. They love it. Two stores in my neighborhood.


We had one store, went out of biz in 4 months.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
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