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"Cult of Mary"
| November 30th, 2014 at 8:37:21 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | Where in the Bible does it say to put Mary at the status the Church has given her. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| November 30th, 2014 at 8:41:37 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 | As someone who knows these legal terms so well I'm curious why you need my opinion on the matter. Maybe it fits in that Jesus was indeed not of this world and was extremely humble and always identified with the poor. We know of course that these terms don't effect the person and I'm sure in your line of work you have met generous parents who raise children, regardless of the circumstances of their birth, as they truly are precious gifts who are loved unconditionally. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| November 30th, 2014 at 8:44:19 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
It might help to define what you mean by her status. She is undoubtedly the Mother of Jesus Christ and lived a exemplary life of holiness and faithfulness. That unique role in salvation history and example alone give her a special place in history and in the life of the Church. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| November 30th, 2014 at 8:45:40 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
OK, what is the status of Mary in your Church and why does it differ from all other churches. 'Scripture actually has very little to say about Mary. There’s no description of her physical appearance, nothing about her life, her later years after Christ’s death, or her own death and burial. And when she does briefly appear with the disciples and the other believers on the day of Pentecost, she’s not an object of worship or even a leader in the early church—she’s just one among many. There simply are no biblical examples of anyone ever praying to her, honoring her, or venerating her.' If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| November 30th, 2014 at 8:53:34 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18756 | If it happened today we could easily do a DNA test for Joseph. I would love to see the results (as would a billion or so others) You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| November 30th, 2014 at 8:53:46 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
How this differs from other Churches is not as much as even some members of other Churches think. Maybe the real point of difference is in the communion of saints and not so much the teaching about Mary. The communion of saints means that our deceased loved ones are still very much alive and connected to us. From their privileged place in Heaven we can ask for their intercession in the same way we can ask each other on earth to pray for us when we have a need or concern. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| November 30th, 2014 at 8:59:03 PM permalink | |
| FrGamble Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 67 Posts: 7596 |
There are volumes about her life after Christ's death and her own. Immediately in the early Church she has been venerated and held up as the model Christian. It is true that she has never been worshiped! She is a human being just like you and I who played an essential role in salvation history. To be a Christian and to not recognize her as special would indeed be as strange today as it would have been in the early Church. “It is with the smallest brushes that the artist paints the most exquisitely beautiful pictures.” ( |
| November 30th, 2014 at 9:02:54 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18756 | Biggest day ever for Maury Povich. Ratings through the roof. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| November 30th, 2014 at 9:06:27 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
But they aren't in the Bible so are irrelevant to Christianity. You can't use the Bible and any other books you feel like using and call it Christianity. Unless you're the only game in town, which the Church was for a thousand years. Who said anything about worshiping Mary . The fact that she has such a high and venerated place when the Bible barely mentions her is a bit strange. Somebody set out to do this for their own reasons, some say it was to pacify the early pagans, who needed a goddess figure if they were to move to Christianity. So the Church gave them Mary. Very political move. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| November 30th, 2014 at 9:10:36 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18756 | Here you go. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |