Antique lock

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December 3rd, 2014 at 2:54:43 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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These finger buttons on the bottom of an antique lock are supposed to be how you trigger the door to lock behind you (without a key). They no longer work, and I don't even know what they are called to search on the internet.

Any ideas?
December 3rd, 2014 at 3:38:23 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Maybe they aren't called anything. Try to find an
old door hardware catalog online. c1910 I'm
guessing.

My house had all brass knobs too. I replaced them
with old milk glass knobs I bought at an auction
years ago.

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December 3rd, 2014 at 3:54:31 PM permalink
Evenbob
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http://www.historichouseparts.com/pdshop/shop/item.aspx?itemid=18640
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December 3rd, 2014 at 3:58:01 PM permalink
DRich
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It looks to me like a push button Mortise lock.
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December 3rd, 2014 at 9:33:43 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: DRich
It looks to me like a push button Mortise lock.

I tried to pop it out of the door (as in the photo below) and it won't come loose. The image below doesn't have a place to put the key. I put it back together, and now, not only the push buttons don't work, but they key doesn't work. So I can't lock it at all.



mortise (n.) c.1400, "hole or groove in which something is fitted to form a joint.

I get that there is a hole in the door, but I don't see how it forms a joint.
December 3rd, 2014 at 11:14:40 PM permalink
Evenbob
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It's called a push button mortise lock.
Worth a hundred bucks if it worked.
I know a guy who's collected door
hardware for 40 years, he has a barn
to the rafters with it. Bought it at
farm and barn auctions for $10
a box sometimes. Great stuff,
from a period when we had actual
craftsmen. Worth a fortune now.
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December 3rd, 2014 at 11:47:06 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Evenbob
It's called a push button mortise lock.


I tried to take it out of the door to fix the pushbuttons. But the key lock cylinder in the upper left side of the picture didn't move. I couldn't get the thing out of the door. When I put it back together the key no longer turned the deadbolt.



It seems to be very sensitive to alignment. It's about 85 years old.
December 4th, 2014 at 2:42:46 AM permalink
odiousgambit
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install another deadbolt above the whole business, if you must lock the door
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December 4th, 2014 at 12:30:34 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: Pacomartin
I tried to pop it out of the door (as in the photo below) and it won't come loose. The image below doesn't have a place to put the key. I put it back together, and now, not only the push buttons don't work, but they key doesn't work. So I can't lock it at all.



mortise (n.) c.1400, "hole or groove in which something is fitted to form a joint.

I get that there is a hole in the door, but I don't see how it forms a joint.


You likely have to take both door knob faceplates off as well Paco. There is likely 2 through bolts hold them together that also pass through the latch mechanism. The through bolts likely can be unscrewed from the non-secure side of the door.
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December 4th, 2014 at 3:09:50 PM permalink
Evenbob
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Quote: Pacomartin
I tried to take it out of the door to fix the pushbuttons. But the key lock cylinder in the upper left side of the picture didn't move. I couldn't get the thing out of the door. When I put it back together the key no longer turned the deadbolt.


Way to go, Bob Vila..
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