Simple question?

I found a path to salvation in Neurologica:

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/the-logic-of-god/#more-6153

(No, I didn't).

Quote: Nareed

I found a path to salvation in Neurologica:

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/the-logic-of-god/#more-6153.

5. God can be personally known and experienced.

This is more circular reasoning – Christians believe in God and this has transformed their lives, therefore God exists. This is a profoundly naive argument. Human psychology is a far simpler explanation. In fact decades of psychological research have shown that basic human psychology – the need for meaning, control, understanding, etc., all lend themselves to religious faith.

Best paragraph in the article.

Quote: Nareed

I will believe your claims the day same sex couples can marry at a Catholic church.

Why don't you get it? Two men and two women cannot enter into the same type of relationship as a man and a woman can. This is not just about nature and how we obviously sexually fit together. It is about the very real differences between men and women that are deeper than the surface, our chromosomes, or our sexual organs. We call the relationship between a man and a woman marriage and we have for just about forever. A same-sex couple are similar but they are not the same thing, stop pretending or fooling yourself into thinking they are.

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I'm sure a great many men from, oh, the dawn of civilization until around the mid 19th Century would take issue with your assessment.

Oh so you think because so many people have thought this way then they must be right? Where have I heard that before? Seriously, can you explain to me why natural law would forbid a woman from being a citizen or a black person from owning land? Of course not.

Quote: Nareed

You don't seem to like my adaptation of the Socratic method much.

Did I mention we're at war?

You are at war with Eastasia. You have created the bogeyman and you want to flog him to make you feel better. I'm happy to join you and help you if it will give you peace and help you see that what you have declared war on is false.

Quote: Evenbob

5. God can be personally known and experienced.

This is more circular reasoning – Christians believe in God and this has transformed their lives, therefore God exists. This is a profoundly naive argument. Human psychology is a far simpler explanation. In fact decades of psychological research have shown that basic human psychology – the need for meaning, control, understanding, etc., all lend themselves to religious faith.

Best paragraph in the article.

I like that paragraph too but it is not an example of circular reasoning. The author is admitting that the transformation of peoples lives is real through what they claim is their faith in God. The author suggests that it is really human psychology for no other reason than it is "a far simpler explanation." I wonder why the researchers think that the basic human psychology is so open to religious faith?

Quote: Evenbob

By 'proper understanding' you mean a
cult brainwashing. You don't think you
mean that, but cult members are always
the last to know what's really going on.

Here is the circular reasoning you were looking for! Your thinking is really a cult brainwashing. Why do you say that? Because you are part of a cult? How do you know that? Because your thinking is really a cult brainwashing. This argument is as ridiculous as your argument against sin. Sin as a transgression against God doesn't exist. Why do you say that? Because there is not a God. Why do you say that? Because there is no God. Is there no other definition of sin that you will accept? No. Why is that? Because that is the only definition that fits my argument that there is no sin. Why is that? Because sin as a transgression against God doesn't exist? ...........

Quote: FrGamble

I wonder why the researchers think that the basic human psychology is so open to religious faith?

Selective breeding.

Quote: FrGamble

I wonder why the researchers think that the basic human psychology is so open to religious faith?

They don't. They think basic human psychology
is perfectly capable of making up gods and
religion to fulfill it's needs. But you knew that's
what they meant. I have no problem with
Christianity from that standpoint, make things
up all day long if that's what you need to do.
It's when you insist it's NOT made up that you
cross the line. Then it becomes pathological
and dangerous.

Quote: FrGamble

Why don't you get it? Two men and two women cannot enter into the same type of relationship as a man and a woman can. This is not just about nature and how we obviously sexually fit together. It is about the very real differences between men and women that are deeper than the surface, our chromosomes, or our sexual organs. We call the relationship between a man and a woman marriage and we have for just about forever. A same-sex couple are similar but they are not the same thing, stop pretending or fooling yourself into thinking they are.

Why would you care about people who fit together? You yourself practice perversion of nature by intentionally practicing celibacy.

I mean if we are suppose to care about perversion of nature.

Quote: rxwine

Why would you care about people who fit together? You yourself practice perversion of nature by intentionally practicing celibacy..

The Church for hundreds of years allowed priests
to marry and have families. Around the 12th century
they changed their minds for political reasons,
and made priests celibate. God had nothing to do
with it.