Things that are overpriced

May 31st, 2023 at 5:08:47 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Quote: AZDuffman
Sure you can. Happens all the time.

But the real thing on obesity is WHO CARES? I will watch my own weight thank you very much. I do not want some 1984 system where the government decides what is healthy and what is not then taxes me to the "right" decisions. Taxing some food because some politician thinks too many people are fat sounds kind of North Koreaish to me.



So force non-obese citizens to contribute to obese persons' medical care?
May 31st, 2023 at 5:23:58 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Comparing general obesity to Heart Disease and Cancer:

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What Are the 12 Leading Causes of Death in the United States?

March 9, 2023
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1. Heart disease

Number of deaths per year: 635,260
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2. Cancer

Number of deaths per year: 598,038
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https://www.healthline.com/health/leading-causes-of-death

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Over 4 million deaths per year caused by obesity

OCTOBER 26, 2021
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"Obesity is the epidemic crisis of our time. The disease leads to serious comorbidities such as diabetes, fatty liver disease and cardiovascular disease and significantly shortens a person's length and quality of life," said Christos S. Mantzoros, M.D., Sc.D., of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, Mass.
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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-10-million-deaths-year-obesity.html

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May 31st, 2023 at 5:54:53 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: DoubleGold
So force non-obese citizens to contribute to obese persons' medical care?


Vs your idea of making me pay more for food you deem unacceptable? Sorry, I do not want more taxes.

Group coverage evens out premiums for all. That is how it works. We force men to buy maternity care.

My position remains WHO CARES?!
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May 31st, 2023 at 6:04:29 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Quote: AZDuffman
Vs your idea of making me pay more for food you deem unacceptable? Sorry, I do not want more taxes.

Group coverage evens out premiums for all. That is how it works. We force men to buy maternity care.

My position remains WHO CARES?!



No, I'm against all health related behavioral taxes.

Just making the point to remove all health related behavioral taxes.

Maternity care is not a health related behavioral issue.



It's obvious to me who cares.

The ones that are paying more cash than the others.
May 31st, 2023 at 6:13:00 AM permalink
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So force non-obese citizens to contribute to obese persons' medical care?


Well, that's the problem, right?

The Government should have no business in healthcare. If the Federal Government (at least) got its stupid bloated nose completely out of providing healthcare, then the Federal Government would have no reason to be concerned with smoking or obesity.
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May 31st, 2023 at 6:18:05 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Well, that's the problem, right?

The Government should have no business in healthcare. If the Federal Government (at least) got its stupid bloated nose completely out of providing healthcare, then the Federal Government would have no reason to be concerned with smoking or obesity.



I agree.


Why should I have to mow a neighbor's yard and my yard when the grass grows?

Get their butt out there in the heat and mow their own yard.
May 31st, 2023 at 6:19:11 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Mission146
Well, that's the problem, right?

The Government should have no business in healthcare. If the Federal Government (at least) got its stupid bloated nose completely out of providing healthcare, then the Federal Government would have no reason to be concerned with smoking or obesity.


The government was taxing cigarettes long before they were a known health risk. The taxes are for revenue, not health. Do not htink that the government cares about our health.
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May 31st, 2023 at 6:38:40 AM permalink
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Quote: AZDuffman
The government was taxing cigarettes long before they were a known health risk. The taxes are for revenue, not health. Do not htink that the government cares about our health.


I both agree and disagree with this.

If the Government is going to be providing healthcare to certain segments of people, or as some on the left would have it, to everyone, then the Government had better dang well be concerned with the health of the populace. I could see routine checkups and preventive stuff becoming mandatory, of course, we'd probably be two-four decades away from that happening even if the left gets its way.

If you don't think the Government cares, then I have some nice property on the moon to sell you. They banned flavored cigarettes; they banned use of the word, 'Light' and most forms of advertising for cigarettes are banned; alcohol is perfectly okay, of course.

The taxes are for health and revenue. The most likely category of people to be priced out are the poor---who are also the most likely to be getting Government healthcare in some form or fashion. If you can get them off of smoking, to the greatest extent possible, but keep the tax revenues basically the same, it's basically a win-win from the Government's perspective.

Industries that are legal should not be forbidden from advertising or have separate taxes levied upon their products, in my opinion. Show me a state with no lottery or gambling interests whatsoever and I might make an exception; I think only four states apply to that---Alaska, Hawaii, Utah and Alabama. Of course, Alabama also has one of the lowest taxes on smokes.
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May 31st, 2023 at 6:53:06 AM permalink
rquiredusername
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Quote: DoubleGold
I agree.


Why should I have to mow a neighbor's yard and my yard when the grass grows?

Get their butt out there in the heat and mow their own yard.


Easy, just don’t cut it until you can bail it. I suppose most don’t live where they’re given the freedom to choose to do so.
May 31st, 2023 at 6:54:35 AM permalink
DoubleGold
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Easy, just don’t cut it until you can bail it.



:)


I had to pay big bucks during a drought to feed a bunch of cows.

Even had to ship it in on trucks from other states.