Trump vs Hillary 2016

Quote: AZDuffman

If you care to post the "lies" you claim then I will elaborate. I doubt you will as you never do.

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-somali-immigrants-refugees-minnesota-c376bdec76f4

This article sums them up nicely.

Quote: ams288

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-somali-immigrants-refugees-minnesota-c376bdec76f4

This article sums them up nicely.

All I see is the same intellectual laziness I have heard when a publication does not like the inconvenient truths. Namely, just because there are a few good citizens the argument is that there is no problem. Appears to be written by a reporter who lives in a nice, gated or otherwise isolated community.

And I highly doubt that anyone who loves refugees would have considered Trump in the first place.

Quote: AZDuffman

All I see is the same intellectual laziness I have heard when a publication does not like the inconvenient truths. Namely, just because there are a few good citizens the argument is that there is no problem. Appears to be written by a reporter who lives in a nice, gated or otherwise isolated community.

And I highly doubt that anyone who loves refugees would have considered Trump in the first place.

So in other words there is no inconvenient truth that you are able to describe.

Quote: ams288

So in other words there is no inconvenient truth that you are able to describe.

Already have in this thread, also have many times in the past. How many times have I pointed out muslim attacks in the USA and worldwide? Or just look at the refugees in Germany thread if you need material. I can't count how many times I have pointed out the crimes of Mexican illegals.

But I will add. When you dump refugees into a neighborhood, what happens to the people who have worked to live in that neighborhood? Again, what of all the costs to local schools and other services? What of increased crime and harassment of women--yes, that keeps happening no matter how many times lefties deny it.

See, the thing is if all of this was "lies" then the public would not be buying it. The public responded to Trump because they believe what they have seen themselves and not what the media and liberal politicians have told them they have seen.

Quote: AZDuffman

Already have in this thread, also have many times in the past. How many times have I pointed out muslim attacks in the USA and worldwide? Or just look at the refugees in Germany thread if you need material. I can't count how many times I have pointed out the crimes of Mexican illegals.

But I will add. When you dump refugees into a neighborhood, what happens to the people who have worked to live in that neighborhood? Again, what of all the costs to local schools and other services? What of increased crime and harassment of women--yes, that keeps happening no matter how many times lefties deny it.

Refugees in Germany?
Mexican illegals?

We are talking about specifically about Somali immigrants in MN. None of this crap you are bringing up here is backed up by facts or data in regards to the topic at hand.

Quote: AZDuffman

See, the thing is if all of this was "lies" then the public would not be buying it.

Yeah, it's pretty hard to fool the public.

Quote: petroglyph

Yeah, it's pretty hard to fool the public.

They also always fail to mention that less people voted for Donald.

The "public" didn't want Donald. Putin did.

Quote: ams288

Refugees in Germany?
Mexican illegals?

We are talking about specifically about Somali immigrants in MN. None of this crap you are bringing up here is backed up by facts or data in regards to the topic at hand.

It all goes back to the same issue, namely liberal politicians ignoring the border and telling the public how great a nation full of refugees and illegal aliens is. No matter what it does to local budgets, neighborhoods, or how much welfare it costs. No matter how it fills prisons. No matter what it does for quality of life.

The "crap" as you call it IS backed up by facts. However, you and other liberals choose to ignore those facts. As I said, the facts are inconvenient.

Quote: AZDuffman

It all goes back to the same issue, namely liberal politicians ignoring the border and telling the public how great a nation full of refugees and illegal aliens is. No matter what it does to local budgets, neighborhoods, or how much welfare it costs. No matter how it fills prisons. No matter what it does for quality of life.

The "crap" as you call it IS backed up by facts. However, you and other liberals choose to ignore those facts. As I said, the facts are inconvenient.

Please provide some "facts" about the Somali immigrant population in Minnesota that back up your "inconvenient truth" - as you have utterly failed to thus far.

Hell, it should be easy to find some alt-right Breitbart-ish source to back you up. They hate brown people of all sorts!

Quote: ams288

Please provide some "facts" about the Somali immigrant population in Minnesota that back up your "inconvenient truth" - as you have utterly failed to thus far.

Hell, it should be easy to find some alt-right Breitbart-ish source to back you up. They hate brown people of all sorts!

Not sure what the Breitbart comment is about, but here are some sources:

knife attack

Mob rape threats

Random shooting.