Military coup on Turkey

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July 15th, 2016 at 3:29:25 PM permalink
Canyonero
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/16/world/europe/military-attempts-coup-in-turkey-prime-minister-says.html?_r=0

I have no opinion on this. I would like to side with deomcracy (I think), but I have no idea whose side democracy is on. For me as a European, this is the most unbelievable news since 9/11. I am stunned.
July 15th, 2016 at 3:44:05 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Turkey. So much has been gained the past few decades but still so far form being on a equal footing with developed Europe. I have not read much on this story yet but the tempo of bad news keeps going. Easy to see the olympics ending up a disaster at this rate.

How often have their been coups in nato nations?
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July 15th, 2016 at 3:49:35 PM permalink
Canyonero
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Quote: AZDuffman


How often have their been coups in nato nations?


According to my knowledge (which is pretty basic), only once: Greece in 1967
July 15th, 2016 at 3:58:55 PM permalink
Evenbob
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CNN is saying this happens in Turkey
every time Turkey gets too 'Islamized',
which has been happening for the last
15 years. They said Turkey has more
journalists in prison than any country
in the world, even China. The military
will throw out the present gov't and
start all over again.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
July 15th, 2016 at 4:13:18 PM permalink
Pacomartin
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Quote: Canyonero
According to my knowledge (which is pretty basic), only once: Greece in 1967


Spain had, 23-F, which is the name given to an attempted coup d'état in Spain that began on 23 February 1981 and ended the following day. But Spain did not enter NATO until May 30, 1982. So Spain, missed it by about 15 months.
July 15th, 2016 at 5:22:01 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Evenbob
CNN is saying this happens in Turkey
every time Turkey gets too 'Islamized',
which has been happening for the last
15 years. They said Turkey has more
journalists in prison than any country
in the world, even China. The military
will throw out the present gov't and
start all over again.


I have heard that the military controls Turkey in reality all the time, just pretends to let it look otherwise.
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July 16th, 2016 at 7:39:05 AM permalink
petroglyph
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-16/erdogans-counter-coup-begins-turkey-purges-2745-judges-prosecutors-arrests-hundreds

Remember Turkey facilitated ISIS fighters travelling to Syria and his son was in charge of handling all the stolen oil from Syria and Iraq.
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July 16th, 2016 at 1:57:53 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Turkey wants to kill any remaining Armenians and to kill or facilitate killing any Kurds which is why it allows Russian planes to bomb Kurdish territory is Syria.
Tukey is and always will be an utterly corrupt government, no matter what figureheads come and go, corruption only grows worse.
July 16th, 2016 at 6:07:32 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Fleastiff

Tukey is and always will be an utterly corrupt government, no matter what figureheads come and go, corruption only grows worse.


Totally a case of location. location, location giving them leverage.

Too bad "Midnight Express" is not on Netflix, all of the sudden I could watch it again.
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July 18th, 2016 at 6:27:04 AM permalink
Nareed
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Quote: Canyonero
I have no opinion on this. I would like to side with deomcracy (I think), but I have no idea whose side democracy is on.


I was rooting for the army. And bas as military coups are, often the situation that leads to them can be worse.

Case in point, the Sultan (or president or PM or whatever he calls himself, but Sultan suits him better), has indicated he'll show utter contempt for the rule of law and centuries of liberal legal traditions. Erdogan wants a bloodbath and he'll have it, costs be damned.


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For me as a European, this is the most unbelievable news since 9/11. I am stunned.


I was stunned it took this long.
If Trump where half as smart as he thinks he is, he'd be twice as smart as he really is.
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