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September 7th, 2018 at 4:49:54 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
I question the objectivity of your source. Sounds as valid as an online poll. Worse, the editors of the video chose what to show you.
Two parts: That there has to be a crime committed That it had to happen when the person is in office Neither of those things is true. It is pointless to say more, you don't want to know the truth. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
September 7th, 2018 at 4:58:36 PM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | Trump only hires the best people. Now he wants to polygraph them. Releasing that anonymous letter to the NYT will only make things worse - Now he will be even harder to control, And it is a shocking and extremely bad that they are violating the Constitution by hiding things from him and are removing things from his desk before he can see them. With that letter, the not-so-secret policy of containing Trump until a new republican can be nominated in 2020, is in serious jeopardy. The only way that was a good idea is if they were setting up a case, priming the public, priming Congress, to actually invoke the 25th amendment. You know that if it happened, though, every president from here going forward would be hearing calls to be replaced under mental fitness. I don't see why the conservatives wouldn't prefer #46 President Pence at this point. Maybe they are holding out until after the midterms, where they could blame the Democrats for removing him through impeachment rather than getting their own hands dirty. That's probably why. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
September 7th, 2018 at 5:22:17 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
In the House he can be impeached for anything. In the Senate an actual trial is held and the crimes he committed WHILE PRESIDENT are brought against him and his lawyers defend him.
House Judiciary Committee determined that impeachment under the Constitution “should only be applied to high crimes and misdemeanors committed while in office and which alone affect the officer in discharge of his duties.” In the case of a president, this would certainly be upheld. Crimes committed before he was president can be tired when he's out of office. I've heard at least 4 legal professors say this, that he cannot be tried for anything he did before he's sworn in. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
September 7th, 2018 at 8:14:54 PM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12550 |
About time! Ah, how nice it was to hear from America’s last legitimate President... “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
September 8th, 2018 at 4:30:52 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18222 |
You need to get out of your bubble. The public is very misinformed, and sorry to say it is worse on the Democrat side. Look at how many liberals thought Obamacare meant they now had "free health care." Look at Occasio-Cortez, an educated Democrat, and how just utterly clueless she is on virtually everything. I would say probably half of Democrats either do not know what happens if a POTUS is remover thru impeachment or else think it is something totally wrong (Hillary, special election, etc.) Heck, right on one of these boards I forget who the liberal was did not even know animals know when the female is in cycle and that is the only time they have sex. Yes, it is that bad. The President is a fink. |
September 8th, 2018 at 7:36:50 AM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | I'm not going to go through everything, but this bit, the second sentence, is wrong:
The hearing in the Senate, in the form of a trial, is to determine whether or not the president who has been impeached by the house should be removed from office specifically for the articles of impeachment brought by the house. Here is Mitch McConnel recently:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/07/politics/mitch-mcconnell-impeachment-indictment/index.html He is saying that a president can not be indicted for a crime, but he can be impeached, for, you know, NOT a crime, because he thinks the president can not be indicted for a crime. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
September 8th, 2018 at 10:50:30 AM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
In the House he can be impeached because he farted crosswise. In the Senate it has to be proved he committed a crime or high misdemeanor while in office. This is why no president has ever been kicked out, the process is too exacting. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
September 8th, 2018 at 10:52:49 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18222 |
Heck, right now the charge is that liberals hate him. The President is a fink. |
September 8th, 2018 at 11:11:35 AM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12550 |
It ain’t just liberals.... did you miss that anonymous op-ed this week? “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
September 8th, 2018 at 11:35:52 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18222 |
An op-ed by some coward who can't even say who they are has zero credibility. The President is a fink. |