The Trump implosion thread!
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January 29th, 2019 at 4:30:49 AM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 | Each shutdown is individual. For clinton, the republicans wanted to cut Medicare, add a bunch of legislation that was objectionable and wouldn't otherwise be able to pass, and lock in a 7 year budget For Obama, again it was a cut by congress, again to a program that had already been approved by congress, in other words another attempt by the minority at the time to stop something approved by the majority. In Trump's case, he wants funding for something not approved by congress at all. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
January 29th, 2019 at 5:41:15 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18221 |
LIE! There was no "cut" to medicare, just a reduction in growth rate. The "objectionable" legislation was to prohibit the census bureau from "sampling" to get a count. IOW, to do the census constitutionally.
LIE! The House approved the wall funding, the Democrats in the Senate filibustered it. It would have passed on a simple majority vote. Maybe you can explain why the Democrats were fine with a wall before Trump was elected? The President is a fink. |
January 29th, 2019 at 7:18:48 AM permalink | |
Dalex64 Member since: Mar 8, 2014 Threads: 3 Posts: 3687 |
Easy. That's a LIE. They were never in favor of what Trump is asking for now. "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan |
January 29th, 2019 at 8:24:58 AM permalink | |
terapined Member since: Aug 6, 2014 Threads: 73 Posts: 11818 |
Exactly Dems have always been for border security and spending money smartly to secure the border A dumb wall does not equal border security. It equals dumb spending. Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World" |
January 29th, 2019 at 8:25:33 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18221 |
You are correct. They wanted to approve many times what Trump is asking when Obama was in office. The President is a fink. |
January 29th, 2019 at 10:21:13 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18774 |
For the truth deniers, Trump has already reinforced his original statement by saying HE may have to shutdown the government AGAIN if he doesn't get his wall. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
January 29th, 2019 at 11:51:00 AM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18221 |
I hope he does if it comes to that. Most of us didn't even notice anything was different. The President is a fink. |
January 29th, 2019 at 12:10:04 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25013 |
Just heard the rundown from somebody I trust. On or after the 15th, he declares an emergency and gets immediately shot down by half a dozen Leftie judges. He orders a fast track thru SCOTUS and they say, yup, he has the right to do that. And Trump gets the money from a lot of places and builds the wall. Will take less than a week after he declares the emergency. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
January 29th, 2019 at 12:12:10 PM permalink | |
ams288 Member since: Apr 21, 2016 Threads: 29 Posts: 12549 |
If that’s such a slam dunk win for him, why didn’t he do that in December? Or after one week of shutdown before his poll numbers really tanked? Why wait? “A straight man will not go for kids.” - AZDuffman |
January 29th, 2019 at 12:12:58 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18221 |
And then Democrats get to stand up for more illegal immigration. The President is a fink. |