The Trump implosion thread!

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January 29th, 2020 at 9:57:01 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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I watched parts (not all so perhaps I am being unfair) of the press conference/signing thingie for the USMCA deal. The flavor I got from Trump was that the US was the big loser with NAFTA, and the US is the big winner in USMCA. I was hoping to hear it sound more like it was a good deal for all 3 nations. To me he sounded like a bully who won, and was putting it in the face of the weaker guys.

Now..... HE DID GET IT DONE! And by all accounts it will be good for US manufacturers, farmers, workers..... It MUST be because it was so obvious to enough Democrats to vote for it despite it being a feather in Trump's chapeau.

He did say one thing I liked..... He said it is because he can help create millions of jobs, increase middle class wages, decrease middle class taxes, help American businesses succeed, that he did "this". By "this" he meant being President. Said how easy his life was before being President, and how much 'stuff' he has to put up with now. It's true, of course.
January 29th, 2020 at 10:06:01 AM permalink
Tripdufan
Member since: Oct 3, 2019
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Quote: SOOPOO
Said how easy his life was before being President, and how much 'stuff' he has to put up with now. It's true, of course.


It is true. Robbing people through a fake university scam, stealing from his own charity, and having his daddy bail him out of several bad business decisions sounds like a pretty easy life.

Contrast to now, where he passed a tax bill where 80% of the benefits goes to people like him WHEN HE SAID ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL THAT HE WOULD NOT CUT TAXES FOR RICH PEOPLE. That he would eliminate the debt (trillion dollar deficits are back...in a "roaring" economy? Since when did deficit spending in a "roaring" economy become a fiscally conservative policy? lol)

Yeah, Donny has it so hard. Good thing the "poorly educated" are in his corner.
January 29th, 2020 at 10:29:43 AM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 135
Posts: 20036
Quote: SOOPOO
To me he sounded like a bully who won, and was putting it in the face of the weaker guys.


Thank god we finally have a
president who's on OUR SIDE.
It was sickening watching Obama
constantly dis the USA every
chance he got. We have a president
who's looking out for our best
interests first. If you can't handle
that, Soopoo, move to Canada.
Lots of 'feel good' politics there.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
January 29th, 2020 at 10:36:38 AM permalink
aceofspades
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 74
Posts: 1561
Quote: Evenbob
Thank god we finally have a
president who's on OUR SIDE.
It was sickening watching Obama
constantly dis the USA every
chance he got. We have a president
who's looking out for our best
interests first. If you can't handle
that, Soopoo, move to Canada.
Lots of 'feel good' politics there.


Remember the Obama "Apology Tour"
January 29th, 2020 at 10:39:58 AM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 124
Posts: 11585
Quote: SOOPOO
I watched parts (not all so perhaps I am being unfair) of the press conference/signing thingie for the USMCA deal. The flavor I got from Trump was that the US was the big loser with NAFTA, and the US is the big winner in USMCA. I was hoping to hear it sound more like it was a good deal for all 3 nations. To me he sounded like a bully who won, and was putting it in the face of the weaker guys.

Now..... HE DID GET IT DONE! And by all accounts it will be good for US manufacturers, farmers, workers..... It MUST be because it was so obvious to enough Democrats to vote for it despite it being a feather in Trump's chapeau.

He did say one thing I liked..... He said it is because he can help create millions of jobs, increase middle class wages, decrease middle class taxes, help American businesses succeed, that he did "this". By "this" he meant being President. Said how easy his life was before being President, and how much 'stuff' he has to put up with now. It's true, of course.


He is POTUS not POUSCMA. Of course he will say he got the best of it. Who wouldn’t.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it
January 29th, 2020 at 11:10:48 AM permalink
SOOPOO
Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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Quote: AZDuffman
He is POTUS not POUSCMA. Of course he will say he got the best of it. Who wouldn’t.


President SOOPOO wouldn't. There is certainly a way to laud the benefits to the USA without making the countries we made the deal with look like losers. I think he said something about us now being able have export 5 times more eggs to Canada. I would phrase it as good for the USA egg farms, and also good that Canadians would have more access to great quality American eggs.

You and EB clearly do not care about the behavior of the President. It may surprise you that there are a lot of Conservatives/Republicans who agree with many (most?) of his policies and still just hate the way he comports himself. Perhaps if the USMCA was presented as more of an agreement that was agreed upon by 3 countries as a win for all 3 countries, the next trade agreement with a foreign country might be easier to attain?

Would you want someone like Trump as your immediate boss? Your friend? Your business associate? Your husband?
I DO want him as my president ..... unless and until the American people vote him out.
January 29th, 2020 at 11:55:40 AM permalink
DRich
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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Posts: 1639
Quote: SOOPOO

You and EB clearly do not care about the behavior of the President. It may surprise you that there are a lot of Conservatives/Republicans who agree with many (most?) of his policies and still just hate the way he comports himself.


I agree, I think the guy acts like a complete moron but I haven't had many issues with his politics.
January 29th, 2020 at 12:45:36 PM permalink
Evenbob
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 135
Posts: 20036
Quote: SOOPOO
President SOOPOO wouldn't. .


And that's why you'd make a
crappy president. Reagan was
great because he was totally
pro USA. Obama sucked because
hates this country.
If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose.
January 29th, 2020 at 1:01:12 PM permalink
terapined
Member since: Aug 6, 2014
Threads: 47
Posts: 5657
Quote: DRich
I agree, I think the guy acts like a complete moron but I haven't had many issues with his politics.

I have a lot of issues
Against tariffs. I have always supported international trade without tariffs. Its a conservative point I totally agree with
Against Socialism giving Corp farmers billions free. Even Detroit paid back. Farmers getting billions is socialism.
The deficit. Its exploding. Just as the housing bubble crashed the economy, owing a gazillion dollars will catch up to us and crash the economy
I always believed in balancing the budget. Its a conservative point I agree with
Sometimes we live no particular way but our own - Grateful Dead "Eyes of the World"
January 29th, 2020 at 1:11:15 PM permalink
AZDuffman
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 124
Posts: 11585
Quote: DRich
I agree, I think the guy acts like a complete moron but I haven't had many issues with his politics.


Complete moron? How? By acting like a man and standing up
For himself?

Romney and McCain tried impressing the country club set. Look where it got them.
The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it