Ocean's 8--real movie or chick flick?

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:55:15 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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I heard about this movie last week and just now saw the trailer. Wondering how it will do. The plot seems to have zero to do with casinos but remains true to being a heist flick. I did not see why it has only 8 vs. 11, though getting even 8 women to get along on a crew might stretch believability. I doubt it can compete with the cleverness of "Ocean's 11" or the fun of "13." Both good in different ways. OTOH, I'd rather watch a test pattern than see "Ocean's 12" again.

Any thoughts? My biggest one is that if they try to make the women to act like guys, it flops. If they get cute with cameos, nobody takes it serious. I think it will be one of those periodic tests of "can women carry a movie?" Assuming the characters are written like the "11s" there is no excuse of "weak" characters. Question becomes, "can the actresses fill them?"

Stage "presence" is a weird thing. Some got it, some ain't got it. If not enough of the group got it, it flops.
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December 26th, 2017 at 12:18:26 PM permalink
odiousgambit
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I don't get this thing about women needing their own movie about the same thing. Needing their own baseball league, yeah, I get that, but then they get that and not enough people go to the games I guess. Men or women.

On the other hand maybe women will go to these movies? But I can't call it a chick flick, that has a different meaning to me.
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December 26th, 2017 at 1:58:43 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: odiousgambit
I don't get this thing about women needing their own movie about the same thing. Needing their own baseball league, yeah, I get that, but then they get that and not enough people go to the games I guess. Men or women.

On the other hand maybe women will go to these movies? But I can't call it a chick flick, that has a different meaning to me.


I rarely get it. I would like to see that version of "Glen Gary Glen Ross" made. I'd like to be the producer and do the casting. I think it would work and actresses would go wild to be part. But this is the exception.

Same with the Blacksploitation versions. They were going to do a black version of "Reservoir Dogs." Having been written for black characters, it might be neat. But "The New Odd Couple" with old scripts? Wonder why it lasted a month?
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December 26th, 2017 at 2:15:18 PM permalink
Fleastiff
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Its perhaps a MeToo movie. If you look at the credits of anything these days Producers, Writers, Casting Directors are all women anyway.