wealthiest person in each state

Quote: kenarman

Compulsory unions for everyone is a communist ideal. Your true colours are showing.

Nah, I’d rather it be highly promoted by government and other entities much like they can promote other ideas like conservation, vaccines, or not littering.

Quote: rxwine

Nah, I’d rather it be highly promoted by government and other entities much like they can promote other ideas like conservation, vaccines, or not littering.

Aside from that, in case you missed it, I’ve already claimed the best form of government isn’t capitalism or socialism but a mixture of both. The USA and other countries are already proof of that.

Quote: rxwine

I’m sure I’m going to give you guys on the right more nightmares, but I wouldn’t have been too unhappy to see unionization across the entire entry level job force as a default condition.

Unions can provide prevention before waiting for problems to occur.

(Will wait for litany of negative aspects of unions to be mentioned). Of course, I have no problem with strict regulation of unions to keep abuses in check.

Why should entry-level worker be forced to pay union dues?

Quote: AZDuffman

Why should entry-level worker be forced to pay union dues?

Surprise, surprise! as Gomer Pyle says,

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If you resign from union membership and stop paying dues, and your public employer has collective bargaining, the union would still be required to continue to represent you fairly and without discrimination in all matters subject to collective bargaining, and you could not be denied any benefits under the law.

Quote: rxwine

Surprise, surprise! as Gomer Pyle says,

Learn the law. Unless it is a right-to-work state you cannot leave the union. And we know which side wants to end right-to-work laws!

I am not the one in this conversation that said all entry level workers should be unionized.

Quote: AZDuffman

Learn the law. Unless it is a right-to-work state you cannot leave the union. And we know which side wants to end right-to-work laws!

I am not the one in this conversation that said all entry level workers should be unionized.

To be accurate - "but I wouldn’t have been too unhappy to see unionization across the entire entry level job force as a default condition."

I would not be unhappy, but I did not say, I would force it to be the default condition. When I do, I'll actually say it.

But Who is REALLY fascist here. You would force everyone to pay for an ID to vote, last I heard.

And yup some of the left supports things I either find questionable, or outright oppose (like defund the police) What else is new.
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Quote: rxwine

To be accurate - "but I wouldn’t have been too unhappy to see unionization across the entire entry level job force as a default condition."

I would not be unhappy, but I did not say, I would force it to be the default condition. When I do, I'll actually say it.

But Who is REALLY fascist here. You would force everyone to pay for an ID to vote, last I heard.

And yup some of the left supports things I either find questionable, or outright oppose (like defund the police) What else is new.
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You do not "pay for an ID to vote." You have it as a condition of being a functioning adult. No special ID to vote is needed.

So you are saying if I said, "I would not be unhappy to see gays and trans forced to wear an insignia identifying them" then that would be the same as what you said? Asking for a friend.

Quote: AZDuffman

You do not "pay for an ID to vote." You have it as a condition of being a functioning adult. No special ID to vote is needed.

So you are saying if I said, "I would not be unhappy to see gays and trans forced to wear an insignia identifying them" then that would be the same as what you said? Asking for a friend.

Sure your example mean the same thing, but one can call for actual action and one does not. If you can't tell the difference then put out, "I wish our President was dead." vs "I'm going to kill the President (insert correct name here)."

Sure you will probably get investigated for wishing. But the other will get you a lot worse.

And you're wrong about the IDs (no surprise) For instance a functional ID in other circumstances can be some receipts that you paid someone if that's all you have. It might be combination of other other forms of identification that are non-acceptable documents at a voting booth.

Quote: rxwine

And you're wrong about the IDs (no surprise) For instance a functional ID in other circumstances can be some receipts that you paid someone if that's all you have. It might be combination of other other forms of identification that are non-acceptable documents at a voting booth.

Voting is important enough that you need to show your state-issued ID. Same as you show when you get a job or open a bank account. "Receipts" are not an ID.