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Merry Christmas trivia
| December 24th, 2020 at 1:54:51 PM permalink | |
| rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 |
Nostrildamus? You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
| December 24th, 2020 at 2:58:56 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
Tupperware parties? I'm a riot, I love Tupperware.. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| December 24th, 2020 at 3:08:29 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
I don't think I supplied enough of an answer about the "Immaculate Conception". I said it referred to "Mary's conception" , but to be more accurate it means that Mary was conceived and born without "original sin". Christianity rejects the idea of "tabula rosa" or that we are born as a blank slate. The doctrine of original sin has little basis in the Bible but it was first referred to in the 3rd century. The concept of "original sin" obviously has a long history in theology, but the essence is we are born to sin. The doctrine of "Immaculate conception" is a major division point between Catholics and Protestants. Anglo-Catholicism comprises people, beliefs and practices within Anglicanism that emphasise the Catholic heritage and identity of the various Anglican churches. The term Anglo-Catholic was coined in the early 19th century. Anglo Catholics have the option of believing in the Immaculate conception, but it is not dogma. |
| December 24th, 2020 at 3:25:47 PM permalink | |
| Wizard Administrator Member since: Oct 23, 2012 Threads: 239 Posts: 6095 |
Merry Christmas, EB. Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber |
| December 24th, 2020 at 5:06:37 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | When I was a kid we had Xmas plays in grade school. I kinda knew the story, but I thought her name was Virgin Mary, I had no idea what a virgin was and nobody explained it. These were the days when the Church wouldn't allow the word pregnant on TV and married couples had to sleep in separate beds. The Vatican was terrified we might picture Lucy and Ricky having sex and would all go straight to hell. So fat chance of anybody explaining what a virgin was to an 8 year old in 1957. I had no idea what sex was, so virgin was just a word to me. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| December 24th, 2020 at 10:01:59 PM permalink | |
| Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | I don't think we know if Jesus was born in a cave. The church of the Nativity is built over a cave which has been believed to have been the birthplace of Jesus since 2nd century.  |
| December 24th, 2020 at 11:50:52 PM permalink | |
| Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 |
"The matter of the inn with “no room” is one of the most historically misunderstood aspects of the Christmas story. ACU scholar Stephen Carlson writes that the word “kataluma” (often translated “inn”) refers to guest quarters. Most likely, Joseph and Mary stayed with family but the guest room was too small for childbirth and hence Mary gave birth in the main room of the house where animal mangers could also be found." https://theconversation.com/what-history-really-tells-us-about-the-birth-of-jesus-89444 If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
| December 25th, 2020 at 3:36:10 AM permalink | |
| odiousgambit Member since: Oct 28, 2012 Threads: 154 Posts: 5111 | Definition of 'Higher Criticism' ... "the study of the literary methods and sources discernible in a text, especially as applied to biblical writings." [from https://languages.oup.com/ ] Example of Higher Criticism, this time regarding Noah and the Ark: "It was common practice in the ancient world to use an event (or memory of an event) and retell it in a figurative way to communicate a message to the hearers. There is good scriptural and historical evidence that the Flood story is an interpretation of an actual historical event retold in the rhetoric and theology of ancient Israel. The Genesis account is one of many stories of catastrophic floods in the ancient world, including the Babylonian epic of Gilgamesh, which bears striking similarities to the story of the Flood." https://biologos.org/common-questions/how-should-we-interpret-the-genesis-flood-account/ Example of Barstool-Scholar Criticism: "Why is Mary still referred to as a virgin when she had a bunch of other kids besides Jesus. Odds of her being a virgin when Jesus was born are zero." I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me] |
| December 25th, 2020 at 3:53:55 AM permalink | |
| odiousgambit Member since: Oct 28, 2012 Threads: 154 Posts: 5111 | A similar nice and short Higher Criticism of the Nativity of Jesus seems a little harder to find, about as good as anything is in Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativity_of_Jesus#Critical_analysis hmmm you don't seem to find there anything like: Mary a virgin? har har har! real scholars are too stuck up I guess I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me] |
| December 25th, 2020 at 4:43:44 AM permalink | |
| AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212 |
Exactly. A joke a few years ago was Joseph should have guaranteed the room with his American Express card. But I tend to doubt they even had many "hotels" at the time. Those that did exist would have been more close to a youth hostel of today. And they would have probably been men only. The President is a fink. |