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December 18th, 2021 at 2:37:57 AM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
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Quote: rxwine
If the true freedom hypocrites were actually about freedom then they'd realize that people in public spaces should only wear clothes if they want to.

The nudists have been deprived for years having to regulate themselves to the hypocrite mask opposers who are only about freedom against masks.
OK. tongue in cheek mode

FREEDOM FOR THE PEOPLE!!!!!

Special Shout out to the nudists!



Interesting. Nudity is illegal in the USA? How very oppressive. You guys are such prudes! No. seriously! You surrender your freedoms so easily! Or is it that you tend to impose your inhibitions on each-other?

people in public spaces should only wear clothes if they want to!!!*

It's not illegal to be naked in public in the UK or much of europe.*
You can walk into a shop stark bollock naked so long as you are wearing a mask.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54188779
https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/03/artist-goes-shopping-naked-except-face-masks-protest-coronavirus-lockdown-12794672/

LOL. Freedom fighters with a sense of humour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-33092812
It gets a bit cold here, mind you!

SOME of our prudes and prudish police try to make it seem illegal to be naked, here. But it isn't... Not unless a complainant can prove it was done with an intention to cause to harm or offend.

I read that US Law is a bit harsher on 'lewd or indecent acts' https://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2008/11/14/is-nudity-illegal/
Though the World Naked Bike Ride 2021 in Portland, Oregon cited it as a political act, so protected under your constitution
https://keep-portland-weird.com/2021-world-naked-bike-ride/
"Remember, the WNBR is a political activity. As such, nudity is permitted in Oregon as an expression of free speech."

Way to go, nudie bikers!!!

We need MORE freedom fighters prepared to bare all.

Fact is, that if I walked around my own back or front garden naked, even in view of my neighbours or strangers on the street, no-one would bat an eyelid. They might chuckle as they say hello. Usually do :o) They would not call the police and if they did, the police would not come. If I walked through town naked, some prude would complain and as an individual, I might be in trouble. Not at all likely to be arrested.

"It's not an offence to be naked in public in England and Wales but it does become an offence if it can be proved the person stripped off with the intention to upset and shock. The complainant has to prove this."

So walking around with a stiffy or poking your knob through a school playground fence would be a problem.

We have a tradition here of having a few rather loopy naked bikers or naked ramblers, who do it in protest and get mixed reactions from the police. Some get arrested and jailed for 'anti-social behaviour' or 'offending public decency'. But the simple act of being naked in public is not an offence in its own right.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-33063397


Anyway. Stay Safe and warm.
December 18th, 2021 at 4:43:29 AM permalink
DRich
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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I am an old guy, no one wants to see me naked.

I remember the first time I went to Orient Beach in St Martin. A section of the beach is set aside for nudists, the whole beach is European style where tops are optional. A walk down the beach near the nudists just reinforced that I had no interest. Mainly people 50 years and older naked. Absolutely nothing sexy about it. I am all for people being naked as long as it is in designated places so I dont have to see it.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent.
December 18th, 2021 at 5:27:49 AM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
Threads: 11
Posts: 1510
Quote: DRich
I am an old guy, no one wants to see me naked.

I remember the first time I went to Orient Beach in St Martin. A section of the beach is set aside for nudists, the whole beach is European style where tops are optional. A walk down the beach near the nudists just reinforced that I had no interest. Mainly people 50 years and older naked. Absolutely nothing sexy about it. I am all for people being naked as long as it is in designated places so I dont have to see it.
Yes. 50+ are the most likely to be nudists. Interesting. First response about nudity and, no offence, it got a mention of what is or isn't sexy or attractive.
I'm a old guy too and no-one wants to see me naked either. So, Drich, is it that you simply don't care to see unattractive bodies, to the extent that you want them to avoid being in your gaze?? What of their freedoms? If they were attractive would you be more tolerant? Not taking a view, just trying to understand your stance

To me, it's not about how people look, it's about their freedom to catch the sun on their bodies and enjoy the breeze. The sort of nudists that I have seen were not doing it to show their great bodies. Just letting it all hang out, free from clothes.. $:o)

Let's add breast feeding into the mix? What is the US perception of breast feeding? Is it 'embarrassing' or inappropriate in public? Should mums take baby into a rest room or private area to feed? Or, sit in the restaurant with the rest of the family dining away together and just flop one out so Baby could join the feast. Hint. My nieces kids never had to dine out in a toilet.

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/public-breastfeeding-is-now-legal-in-all-50-states/
UK
https://maternityaction.org.uk/advice/breastfeeding-in-public-places/


This is fun. Exploring opinions on the unspoken taboos
December 18th, 2021 at 6:03:47 AM permalink
rxwine
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
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The standards of appropriate wear really aren't set in stone. But people have drawn lines everywhere with claims that an extra inch of dress height is indecent for instance. They fight over an inch above the knee or below.

I've gotten so used to seeing women in thongs, I don't think anything of it, yet, I can remember a time a woman in a thong probably would have got arrested.

Found this quote online which likely true.

Quote:
As a former Muslim I can confirm that ankles made me weak


The attempt to cover up everything and you just end up moving the bar of sexy instead of reducing it.

And yeah, everyone can say they don't want to see someone who looks like "pick a description">
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really?
December 18th, 2021 at 7:50:17 AM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
Threads: 11
Posts: 1510
Quote: rxwine

The attempt to cover up everything and you just end up moving the bar of sexy instead of reducing it.

And yeah, everyone can say they don't want to see someone who looks like "pick a description">
True indeed. Sexy is the bit we cannot see but might catch a glimpse of. Thus not much sexy about the average naked human. Looking like "a condom filled with baked beans" or "a hairy bag of spanners" or an "ugly bag of mostly water"

Anyhow.... I see some signs
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/2hbhaan/nude-sayings/
December 19th, 2021 at 3:37:46 PM permalink
DRich
Member since: Oct 24, 2012
Threads: 51
Posts: 4967
Quote: OnceDear
Yes. 50+ are the most likely to be nudists. Interesting. First response about nudity and, no offence, it got a mention of what is or isn't sexy or attractive.
I'm a old guy too and no-one wants to see me naked either. So, Drich, is it that you simply don't care to see unattractive bodies, to the extent that you want them to avoid being in your gaze?? What of their freedoms? If they were attractive would you be more tolerant? Not taking a view, just trying to understand your stance

To me, it's not about how people look, it's about their freedom to catch the sun on their bodies and enjoy the breeze. The sort of nudists that I have seen were not doing it to show their great bodies. Just letting it all hang out, free from clothes.. $:o)

Let's add breast feeding into the mix? What is the US perception of breast feeding? Is it 'embarrassing' or inappropriate in public? Should mums take baby into a rest room or private area to feed? Or, sit in the restaurant with the rest of the family dining away together and just flop one out so Baby could join the feast. Hint. My nieces kids never had to dine out in a toilet.

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/public-breastfeeding-is-now-legal-in-all-50-states/ head
UK
https://maternityaction.org.uk/advice/breastfeeding-in-public-places/


This is fun. Exploring opinions on the unspoken taboos


Yes, you hit the nail on the head. All people that I find unattractive should be required to be out of my gaze while nude. I should be sole judge of who is unattractive. I have no issues with any nude people as long as I don't have to view them.
At my age a Life In Prison sentence is not much of a detrrent.
December 19th, 2021 at 10:27:36 PM permalink
JimRockford
Member since: Sep 18, 2015
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Posts: 971
I’m 60 and I look great naked. Just a shame no one gets to see except Mrs Rockford and she has become so accustom that she is immune to my charm.
The mind hungers for that on which it feeds.
December 20th, 2021 at 3:16:38 AM permalink
OnceDear
Member since: Nov 21, 2017
Threads: 11
Posts: 1510
Quote: JimRockford
I’m 60 and I look great naked. Just a shame no one gets to see except Mrs Rockford and she has become so accustom that she is immune to my charm.
Pah! If she doesn't appreciate you, then go give your neighbours the benefit :o)