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December 2nd, 2023 at 2:40:59 AM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: DRich
Very simple, just don't cash out and you won't have to pay taxes.


Wrong. As soon as the income is made you have to pay taxes. The issue is you should not have to pay double taxes on your dividends.
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December 2nd, 2023 at 5:54:47 AM permalink
DRich
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Quote: AZDuffman
Wrong. As soon as the income is made you have to pay taxes. The issue is you should not have to pay double taxes on your dividends.


There is no income if you don't sell the stock. Obviously, don't invest in dividend earning stocks then you avoid the tax bill.

Investing is simple and as long as you never take a profit you won't be taxed. Just keep investing and when you die your family inheritance will not be taxed unless it is over $13 million.
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December 2nd, 2023 at 6:23:42 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: DRich
There is no income if you don't sell the stock. Obviously, don't invest in dividend earning stocks then you avoid the tax bill.

Investing is simple and as long as you never take a profit you won't be taxed. Just keep investing and when you die your family inheritance will not be taxed unless it is over $13 million.


So, it could be an AP play to fake your own death.

The first part of the plan is finding a random dead person. Preferably on the street. Replace their ID if any with yours and make sure a family member makes a positive identification of "you" at the morgue.
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December 2nd, 2023 at 7:09:49 AM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: rxwine
So, it could be an AP play to fake your own death.

The first part of the plan is finding a random dead person. Preferably on the street. Replace their ID if any with yours and make sure a family member makes a positive identification of "you" at the morgue.


Why would the family member have to fake the ID. If they make sure that it is really is you in the morgue then they are golden.
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December 2nd, 2023 at 7:29:43 AM permalink
rxwine
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Quote: kenarman
Why would the family member have to fake the ID. If they make sure that it is really is you in the morgue then they are golden.


The family member is going to be called to ID the body because of the circumstances. Also, you can't count on knowing how the person died. The family member has to confirm that everything fits the autopsy.

The crime of false reporting is not going to be nearly as bad as if you have to murder someone.
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December 2nd, 2023 at 10:20:12 AM permalink
Mission146
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Quote: AZDuffman
Wrong. As soon as the income is made you have to pay taxes. The issue is you should not have to pay double taxes on your dividends.


Speaking of double taxes, are yourself and the corporation the same legal entity?
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December 2nd, 2023 at 1:08:43 PM permalink
kenarman
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Quote: Mission146
Speaking of double taxes, are yourself and the corporation the same legal entity?

Mission here is a scenario to help show that there is at least some validity to the double taxation idea. Let say you own 100% of the shares of Mission Corp that owns your business. Every year on the year end of Mission Corp you have a decision to make on what to do with that years profits. You can leave them in the business as part of your operating capital and Mission Corp will pay taxes on that profit. Alternately you could pull 100% of the profit out as wages and Mission Corp would have no profit and not pay any taxes and you would pay taxes on your wages. If you decided to leave the profit in the company and pulled it out the following year as a dividend that same money would end up being taxed both years.
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December 2nd, 2023 at 1:43:03 PM permalink
AZDuffman
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Quote: Mission146
Speaking of double taxes, are yourself and the corporation the same legal entity?


Ain't the question. The income was taxed already. The legal entity is for limited liability and ease of buying and selling shares of the entity.

You really are dug in on a losing position here.
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December 2nd, 2023 at 2:25:34 PM permalink
rxwine
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question of the day: when did they start taxing dividends?
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December 2nd, 2023 at 2:55:53 PM permalink
Tanko
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Quote: rxwine
question of the day: when did they start taxing dividends?


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