Grafton, NH
December 16th, 2023 at 5:24:09 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 | Success or failure I like to see exploration of political ideas. (I copied this from a slide show, and didn't confirm the accuracy.
You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
December 16th, 2023 at 5:52:34 AM permalink | |
odiousgambit Member since: Oct 28, 2012 Threads: 154 Posts: 5112 | These were very extreme Libertarians. The belief in no government at all is Anarchism Wikipedia: Anarchism is a political philosophy and movement that is skeptical of all justifications for authority and seeks to abolish the institutions it claims maintain unnecessary coercion and hierarchy, typically including nation-states, and capitalism. I'm Still Standing, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah [it's an old guy chant for me] |
December 16th, 2023 at 5:59:24 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 |
but limited government is just Republicans without the anti-freedom DeSantis-like Christian-like morality enacted. (IMO) You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
December 16th, 2023 at 6:03:45 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 | BTw, I have no problem that the left also has anti-freedom. Just different . But even a "keep off the grass" sign is anti-freedom even if that's the only restriction. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
December 16th, 2023 at 6:29:41 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
I agree with this. They were Anarchists or pseudo-Anarchists. Libertarians have varying positions on everything; there's even a pro-life v. pro-choice (I think a small majority are pro-choice) split, but we don't demand strict ideological purity, so it's fine. We actually discuss things amongst ourselves civilly. Another example is that some Libertarians would remove the Federal Minimum Wage, though I wouldn't. I'd do a steady increase over three years and then index it to inflation thereafter. I do think there should be some wage protections. Lots of employers have varying ways to get around (or just do something outright illegal) the minimum wage that's already in place. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
December 16th, 2023 at 6:35:32 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 |
You'd probably get called a LINO by them. Libertarian in name only. That's what extremists do when the don't like the more moderates of their wing. You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |
December 16th, 2023 at 6:40:26 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
I have literally never heard (or saw) the term, 'LINO,' in my life. There are even people who call themselves Libertarian-Socialists, which seems oxymoronic to me, but we would not silence them or tell them we don't want them, in any way. We just try to explain to them that the end result of a small and unobtrusive government is, in effect, socially liberal and economically conservative. Also, that's not a very common form of Libertarian. These were mostly people who were p!$$3D that Bernie didn't get the nomination, both in 2016 and 2020, but especially in 2016...then they came in talking about socialized medicine, government-paid tuition, the whole nine. Behind the scenes, (in our discussion places) we kind of figured they'd just leave on their own eventually, and they did. If they're so angry that they want to vote Libertarian, despite that they probably aren't in favor of what most Libertarians actually believe in, we're certainly not going to object to that. "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
December 16th, 2023 at 6:40:41 AM permalink | |
GenoDRPh Member since: Aug 24, 2023 Threads: 0 Posts: 644 |
So if inflation goes down, you'd allow employers to reduce wages of existing employees? |
December 16th, 2023 at 6:43:44 AM permalink | |
Mission146 Administrator Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 23 Posts: 4147 |
First of all, employers can already reduce the wages of existing employees, I believe. Not if they're only making Minimum Wage, though. The way I'd have it work would be similar to the way Social Security works now: The increase (if there was one) would be based on the inflation percentage from the previous year. If there was no increase, or we had a deflationary year, then nothing would change. What I think would be very likely to happen is that many employers would follow suit, perhaps not for extremely high-paying jobs, but for lower-paid employees. They'd say, "Hey, you guys are good employees and MW is about to go up by 3%, because of inflation. We're already paying you more than Minimum Wage because you're good employees and we wanted to attract and retain you, therefore, we will be also be increasing your wages by 3%, across the board." "War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen..let us give them all they want." William T. Sherman |
December 16th, 2023 at 6:44:42 AM permalink | |
rxwine Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 189 Posts: 18762 |
Well, someone has to modify the language to make some point or two. Might as well be me! You believe in an invisible god, and dismiss people who say they are trans? Really? |