Future of Cable TV
March 12th, 2016 at 5:57:09 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | I tried Amazon twice, 30 days free, on two different accounts. Not worth paying as far as I'm concerned. Nflix has a better selection and a much better picture than Amazon. I ran out of stuff I was interested in, and I never do that on Nflix. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
March 12th, 2016 at 6:15:24 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 | Interestingly the CW network is coming up on 10 years this fall. They renewed every single scripted show they had, even the ones with bad ratings. Curiously, the shows with bad ratings, are two of the most honored shows in their lineup. CBS and Warner Brother (the CW in the network title) own all of their shows. Rumor is they are going to develop a streaming service this fall ($2-$4 per month). Their contracts with Hulu, Netflix, and the owner of their most important TV stations all come due this fall. Depending on how contract negotiations go with the station affiliate, we may actually see the first network to migrate from broadcast to a pay internet network. It probably won't happen all at once. On the other hand, if it drops it's TV station affiliations, it would be free to expand into other countries without any regulatory hassle. I think their decision to renew every show, is related to the need to have a lot of shows that can be binge watched. Some of their show were carried over from the previous networks, UPN and The WB. One show, Supernatural, was a carry over that survived the full decade of The CW. Dramas 7th Heaven (2006–2007) (The WB: 1996–2006) Gilmore Girls (2006–2007) (The WB: 2000–2006) Smallville (2006–2011) (The WB: 2001–2006) One Tree Hill (2006–2012) (The WB: 2003–2006) Veronica Mars (2006–2007) (UPN: 2004–2006) Runaway (2006) Hidden Palms (2007) Gossip Girl (2007–2012) Life Is Wild (2007–2008) Reaper (2007–2009) 90210 (2008–2013) Privileged (2008–2009) Easy Money (2008–2009) Valentine (2008–2009) The Beautiful Life: TBL (2009) Melrose Place (2009–2010) Life Unexpected (2010–2011) Hellcats (2010–2011) Nikita (2010–2013) Ringer (2011–2012) The Secret Circle (2011–2012) Hart of Dixie (2011–2015) The L.A. Complex (2012) Emily Owens, M.D. (2012–2013) The Carrie Diaries (2013–2014) Cult (2013) The Tomorrow People (2013–2014) Star-Crossed (2014) The Messengers (2015) ------ Supernatural (2006) (The WB: 2005–06) The Vampire Diaries (2009) Arrow (2012) Beauty & the Beast (2012) The Originals (2013) Reign (2013) The 100 (2014) The Flash (2014) iZombie (2015) Legends of Tomorrow (2016) Comedies Girlfriends (2006–2008) (UPN: 2000–2006) Reba (2006–2007) (The WB: 2001–2006) All of Us (2006–2007) (UPN: 2003–2006) Everybody Hates Chris (2006–2009) (UPN: 2005–2006) The Game (2006–2009) Aliens in America (2007–2008) 18 to Life (2010) Backpackers (2014) Seed (2014) ---- Jane the Virgin (2014) Significant Mother (2015) Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (2015) |
March 12th, 2016 at 6:24:16 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212 |
That has to be a tough position to be in. Basically as CEO you are just trying to delay failure. Like the latest CEO of Yahoo! That ship will sink but she will keep trying to save it. As to ESPN, you can ride a cash cow for years even decades of decline and nice profits. Their problem will be that subscriptions fall but rights fees will rise. They may end up as a master franchise of sorts, re-selling local rights. Next 5 years probably assured, after that it will get dicey. It will come down to demand elasticity. Guys that keep cable tend to keep it for sports. This does not include their SO who may have other reasons. Ask a guy to cord cut and he says, "well, but sports!" Guys who care less about sports cut. Cable by various methods keeps sports locked up. Let some local teams stream and it may crack the dam. The President is a fink. |
March 12th, 2016 at 6:33:38 PM permalink | |
Evenbob Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 146 Posts: 25011 | On that list of CW shows, never saw a single one, only know a couple of the names. Amazing. If you take a risk, you may lose. If you never take a risk, you will always lose. |
July 22nd, 2016 at 8:44:58 AM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
From a programming point of view, In some ways I regarded Sling TV as a retrograde. It provided 20 channels of IPTV for $20 (one outlet). The 20 channels was the minimum specified by the FCC in 1976 rules. Now SlingTV offers the choice of up to 3 outlets for $25 and now it includes BBCAmerica. I always thought BBCAmerica was getting shafted by cable Television. It doesn't cost the cable companies anymore than any other channel, but because it is not part of an American consortium, it gets put up with a higher tier of channels that typically cost $10 to $15 additional. BBCAmerica is very popular, and it provides a strong inducement to go to the higher tier. https://www.sling.com/ Now Sling TV is offering BBCAmerica for the $20 package. Possibly a small thing, but possibly a harbinger of a complete breakdown of the current CATV system.
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July 22nd, 2016 at 2:10:26 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212 | I had no idea Nickelodeon was on air before ESPN. The President is a fink. |
July 22nd, 2016 at 5:11:17 PM permalink | |
Pacomartin Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 1068 Posts: 12569 |
It actually had a predecessor called Pinwheel which was launched on December 1, 1977 QUBE was a Warner Brothers test product first launched in Columbus, Ohio. The initial QUBE service debuted with 30 channels (a large number of cable channels at the time), including 10 pay-per-view movie channels (a then-new feature for cable TV); 10 broadcast channels (from Columbus, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, and Cleveland); and 10 community channels. These community channels included one dedicated to a single show: Pinwheel, which would go on to air on Nickelodeon from the latter's launch in 1979. Qube console (Adult Films were hard R, not soft X) Qube article that mentions Pinwheel http://www.qube-tv.com/qube-tv/GUIDE.pdf |
July 22nd, 2016 at 5:14:38 PM permalink | |
AZDuffman Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 135 Posts: 18212 |
My grandparents had QUBE in Pittsburgh in early 1980s, a later and fancier version than the pic here. Lots of mostly junk channels. Kind of billboard ads, a channel that just showed you how to use it, other stuff. It didn't last, too far ahead of its time I think. The President is a fink. |
October 5th, 2016 at 2:57:17 PM permalink | |
Nareed Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 346 Posts: 12545 | I keep thinking someone will come up with an aggregation service for online TV/Movie content. I think it's inevitable. Consider, each service has its points, and there is some overlap between them, but it would cost too much to subscribe to all, and that's leaving aside regular and occasional services like news and sports. I thought of a possible scenario. Suppose Amazon decides it would rather get a little from people who don't currently subscribe to their service rather than nothing. So they make some shows available to a third party distributor who sells them to you for a modest monthly fee. Maybe this Amazon Sub-Prime package also carries ads (for added revenue). Netflix sees this, does the math, and follows suit. Of course, someone already paying for Amazon Prime won't be too happy, or might consider the aggregator a better deal. So many people will switch. I'm not saying this will happen, but the demand for such a service will be there. It will be almost like cable TV is now, except everything will be on demand, t be watched at any time and, more important, anywhere there is decent WiFi. Donald Trump is a one-term LOSER |
November 2nd, 2016 at 3:03:49 PM permalink | |
reno Member since: Oct 24, 2012 Threads: 58 Posts: 1384 | I just spent some time looking at the list of channels available on Sling TV. It's impressive, and you have the option of adding groups of channels for an additional $5/month or even HBO for $15. Why haven't more people switched to Sling? It's such an incredible value compared to cable or satellite. My theory is that people just don't know about it, they don't advertise it much. |